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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Free Agency Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc... This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out ...

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Old 01-10-2017, 06:57 PM   #1
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The off-season recipe for success

Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:09 PM   #2
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Re: The off-season recipe for success

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Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.
Now that makes sense.
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Old 01-10-2017, 07:54 PM   #3
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Re: The off-season recipe for success

As simple as it sounds so many teams fail to use logic and try to get to freaking cute out of desperation to fill a need.

The saints need to decide if they are going to load up Drew and ride the few years left to the promise land. Defense is not going to get us there anytime soon. Accept it is a work in progress and build an offense that dictates the game. We are so freaking close. With a little luck 3 or 4 pieces will allow the saints to pass all over teams as usual but more importantly pound the rock down teams throats.

"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins
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Re: The off-season recipe for success

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Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.

You forgot draft all Bama and Clemson players!
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Old 01-10-2017, 08:43 PM   #5
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You forgot draft all Bama and Clemson players!
and no LSU players????????????
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Re: The off-season recipe for success

Build the lines.
O and D.
The rest, for the most part, is already in place.
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Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.
i like your senerio, but would you grab fournet if he slips to 11, or get that elite pass rusher? do we make sure we have a trade for ingram before we snatch fournet is it even possible to do it, or just grab and trade him back for the mother load.
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i like your senerio, but would you grab fournet if he slips to 11, or get that elite pass rusher? do we make sure we have a trade for ingram before we snatch fournet is it even possible to do it, or just grab and trade him back for the mother load.
No, we have plenty fine RBs. RBs don't bring home the ring. Fournet will end up as a mid quality, short term RB, in the big leagues and since we don't have a Cowboys quality OL, he'd be wasted in our system. Soooo we stick with the fronts on either side of the ball. Preferably the D side.

Oh yeah. Danno you forgot the most important part -our new coaches.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:32 AM   #9
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Continue to tap that "Ohio State" pipeline!!
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Don't forget, Win all your home games and 2 on the road = 10 - 6
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