The off-season recipe for success

Danno · 01-10-2017, 07:57 PM

Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.

AsylumGuido · 01-10-2017, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.

Now that makes sense.

hagan714 · 01-10-2017, 08:54 PM

As simple as it sounds so many teams fail to use logic and try to get to freaking cute out of desperation to fill a need.

The saints need to decide if they are going to load up Drew and ride the few years left to the promise land. Defense is not going to get us there anytime soon. Accept it is a work in progress and build an offense that dictates the game. We are so freaking close. With a little luck 3 or 4 pieces will allow the saints to pass all over teams as usual but more importantly pound the rock down teams throats.

SmashMouth · 01-10-2017, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.

You forgot draft all Bama and Clemson players!

gulfgambler · 01-10-2017, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

You forgot draft all Bama and Clemson players!

and no LSU players????????????

RockyMountainSaint · 01-11-2017, 12:46 AM

Build the lines.
O and D.
The rest, for the most part, is already in place.

st thomas · 01-11-2017, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Free Agency
Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc...

This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation.

Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc).

Draft
Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need.

Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had.

Philosophy
Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes.

Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper.

i like your senerio, but would you grab fournet if he slips to 11, or get that elite pass rusher? do we make sure we have a trade for ingram before we snatch fournet is it even possible to do it, or just grab and trade him back for the mother load.

Seer1 · 01-11-2017, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

i like your senerio, but would you grab fournet if he slips to 11, or get that elite pass rusher? do we make sure we have a trade for ingram before we snatch fournet is it even possible to do it, or just grab and trade him back for the mother load.

No, we have plenty fine RBs. RBs don't bring home the ring. Fournet will end up as a mid quality, short term RB, in the big leagues and since we don't have a Cowboys quality OL, he'd be wasted in our system. Soooo we stick with the fronts on either side of the ball. Preferably the D side.

Oh yeah. Danno you forgot the most important part -our new coaches.

vpheughan · 01-11-2017, 12:32 PM

Continue to tap that "Ohio State" pipeline!!

vpheughan · 01-11-2017, 12:41 PM

Don't forget, Win all your home games and 2 on the road = 10 - 6

01-10-2017, 07:57 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	The off-season recipe for success Free Agency Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc... This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation. Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc). Draft Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need. Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had. Philosophy Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes. Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper. exiled, jnormand, MatthewT and 6 others like this.

01-10-2017, 08:09 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: The off-season recipe for success Originally Posted by Danno Free Agency Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc... This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation. Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc). Draft Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need. Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had. Philosophy Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes. Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper. Now that makes sense.

01-10-2017, 08:54 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The off-season recipe for success As simple as it sounds so many teams fail to use logic and try to get to freaking cute out of desperation to fill a need. The saints need to decide if they are going to load up Drew and ride the few years left to the promise land. Defense is not going to get us there anytime soon. Accept it is a work in progress and build an offense that dictates the game. We are so freaking close. With a little luck 3 or 4 pieces will allow the saints to pass all over teams as usual but more importantly pound the rock down teams throats.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

01-10-2017, 09:29 PM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The off-season recipe for success Originally Posted by Danno Free Agency Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc... This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation. Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc). Draft Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need. Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had. Philosophy Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes. Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper. You forgot draft all Bama and Clemson players!

01-10-2017, 09:43 PM	#5
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: The off-season recipe for success Originally Posted by SmashMouth You forgot draft all Bama and Clemson players! and no LSU players???????????? SmashMouth likes this.

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

01-11-2017, 12:46 AM	#6
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: The off-season recipe for success Build the lines. O and D. The rest, for the most part, is already in place. ScottF likes this.

01-11-2017, 09:16 AM	#7
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: The off-season recipe for success Originally Posted by Danno Free Agency Address holes with quality 2nd tier guys in free agency. Like we did with Greer, Lewis, Fujita, Shanle, Dave Thomas, Watson, Shraper, etc... This allows us to approach the draft with the BPA mentality, taking needs mostly out of the equation. Stay away from the mega money splash signings unless a freak stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc). Draft Do not draft solely for need, but eliminate positions of non-need. Obviously if a Deuce McAllister type player drops a half-round, yeah you probably pull the trigger. But if that doesn't happen, eliminate positions of non-need. Trust your board. If the best available pass rusher doesn't really grade out any better than what you already have, move along. I think thats what happened with OG in 2016. After the 2nd round there just weren't any prospects better than the young guys we already had. Philosophy Pick a scheme and target players fit that scheme. Steelers, Ravens and Pats did that for years with huge success. Enough of the square pegs in round holes. Damn, why aren't I an NFL GM? It looks so easy on paper. i like your senerio, but would you grab fournet if he slips to 11, or get that elite pass rusher? do we make sure we have a trade for ingram before we snatch fournet is it even possible to do it, or just grab and trade him back for the mother load.

01-11-2017, 11:49 AM	#8
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: The off-season recipe for success Originally Posted by st thomas i like your senerio, but would you grab fournet if he slips to 11, or get that elite pass rusher? do we make sure we have a trade for ingram before we snatch fournet is it even possible to do it, or just grab and trade him back for the mother load. No, we have plenty fine RBs. RBs don't bring home the ring. Fournet will end up as a mid quality, short term RB, in the big leagues and since we don't have a Cowboys quality OL, he'd be wasted in our system. Soooo we stick with the fronts on either side of the ball. Preferably the D side. Oh yeah. Danno you forgot the most important part -our new coaches.

01-11-2017, 12:32 PM	#9
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: The off-season recipe for success Continue to tap that "Ohio State" pipeline!! Seer1 likes this.
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525

01-11-2017, 12:41 PM	#10
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: The off-season recipe for success Don't forget, Win all your home games and 2 on the road = 10 - 6
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/81045-off-season-recipe-success.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	01-10-2017 08:13 PM	11