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K Major 01-14-2017 02:39 PM

Kenny Vaccaro didn’t realize taking Adderall was against rules
 
Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro apologized for letting down his teammates, but admitted he didn’t realize he was doing something against the rules when he took Adderall, failed a PED test and was suspended for four games.

Vaccaro told Mike Triplett of ESPN.com that he wasn’t trying to take the stimulant for performance-enhancing reasons, unless you mean trying to enhance his weekend. He said he took it during the Saints bye weekend, when he was in Dallas watching his brother play in the Texas-Oklahoma game.

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dizzle88 01-14-2017 03:17 PM

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Maybe he'll check before taking anything in future.

He couldnt just ring a Coach or teammate and ask?

ChrisXVI 01-14-2017 03:36 PM

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That's our leadership right there folks!

halloween 65 01-14-2017 03:53 PM

Re: Kenny Vaccaro didn’t realize taking Adderall was against rules
 
He's full of crap, he knew. They all know.

Seer1 01-14-2017 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 733589)
That's our lack of leadership right there folks!

FIFY

How could I know it was against the rules and he not?

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 733592)
FIFY

How could I know it was against the rules and he not?

Because you read everything to do with football. I'll bet he doesn't.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 733590)
He's full of crap, he knew. They all know.

You know that for sure? I would venture to bet that the majority of young NFL players don't know the entirety of rules. These kids just want to play.

spkb25 01-14-2017 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 733594)
You know that for sure? I would venture to bet that the majority of young NFL players don't know the entirety of rules. These kids just want to play.

that's they're job, not mine, not ours. It is his job to know it, and to a larger extent it is a function of the HC. Another fail by SP

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733595)
that's they're job, not mine, not ours. It is his job to know it, and to a larger extent it is a function of the HC. Another fail by SP

Bullcrap. There isn't a head coach in the NFL that monitors what players know about drug policies. That is so low level. But, yes, it is the player's job to know, but I am sure many, if not most, are only concerned with maximizing doing what they can do on the field to remain on the roster. These are kids. I have sons older.

spkb25 01-14-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 733596)
Bullcrap. There isn't a head coach in the NFL that monitors what players know about drug policies. That is so low level. But, yes, it is the player's job to know, but I am sure many, if not most, are only concerned with maximizing doing what they can do on the field to remain on the roster. These are kids. I have sons older.

You are a coach in the NFL? How the F do you know? Man you pretend to know a lot about things you have absolutely no idea about.

If the rules are that confusing and difficult to follow it is the coaches job to make sure his players are not getting suspended and are on the field. Low energy needs to do a better job making sure his players are informed so they can be on the field like they're supposed to.

Oh wait, NM, he is suspended because it is the Adderall's fault.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733602)
You are a coach in the NFL? How the F do you know? Man you pretend to know a lot about things you have absolutely no idea about.

If the rules are that confusing and difficult to follow it is the coaches job to make sure his players are not getting suspended and are on the field. Low energy needs to do a better job making sure his players are informed so they can be on the field like they're supposed to.

Oh wait, NM, he is suspended because it is the Adderall's fault.

Know a lot more than you think, brother.

spkb25 01-14-2017 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 733603)
Know a lot more than you think, brother.

Yeah, spoken like the true narcissist who thinks he is smarter than he actually is. This from the guy who swore we'd win the first round of the playoffs had we made it only to watch us get obliterated by the Falcons like an hour later.

ChrisXVI 01-14-2017 05:41 PM

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*Clicks on thread

*Hopes spkb25 and AsylumGuido aren't arguing in this one too.

*Bummer

LOL

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 733605)
*Clicks on thread

*Hopes spkb25 and AsylumGuido aren't arguing arguing in this one too.

*Bummer

LOL

Guess who started it?

Crusader 01-14-2017 06:07 PM

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I didn't know Vaccaro was retarded.

I mean, that is the only acceptable excuse for not knowing if what you put in your body is allowed or not.

I've played for 15 years and have gotten tested atleast once every year by the Swedish sports federation (WADA rules). I am an amateur and nowhere near getting paid, I have a regular job and manage to spend all my spare time on football. Still I find the time and interest to check all the WADA lists before I take a supplement or even a damn aspirin. Under the WADA rules any infractions carries a standard 2-year suspension.

There is NO ****ING EXCUSE for putting anything in your body without knowing what it is.

spkb25 01-14-2017 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 733608)
I didn't know Vaccaro was retarded.

LMMFAO, I am cracking up, great post.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733609)
LMMFAO, I am cracking up, great post.

You two are so cute.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 06:14 PM

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So, you are saying the Saints should cut Vaccaro? Trade him? What is the point? Explain directly to this post.

halloween 65 01-14-2017 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 733594)
You know that for sure? I would venture to bet that the majority of young NFL players don't know the entirety of rules. These kids just want to play.

Ask any college kid knows what adderall is and he knew. Sorry you've been out of the loop but adderall and it's affects are well known by a huge number of people. He knew, you can defend your boy all you want( and you will) but he knew what he took and got his a$$ caught.

halloween 65 01-14-2017 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 733612)
So, you are saying the Saints should cut Vaccaro? Trade him? What is the point? Explain directly to this post.

I've been saying trade his a$$ for years, he aint' what you make him out to be. I'm hoping they don't take up his rookie option. He's not nowhere near a game changer you argue he is , not even close.

AsylumGuido 01-14-2017 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 733617)
I've been saying trade his a$$ for years, he aint' what you make him out to be. I'm hoping they don't take up his rookie option. He's not nowhere near a game changer you argue he is , not even close.

And you have been educated to the fact that trading players is rare, and he is also one of the best defensive players on the squad. What is your point?

44Champs 01-14-2017 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 733617)
I've been saying trade his a$$ for years, he aint' what you make him out to be. I'm hoping they don't take up his rookie option. He's not nowhere near a game changer you argue he is , not even close.

He's definitely not what he was hyped to be coming out of college

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spkb25 01-14-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 733615)
Ask any college kid knows what adderall is and he knew. Sorry you've been out of the loop but adderall and it's affects are well known by a huge number of people. He knew, you can defend your boy all you want( and you will) but he knew what he took and got his a$$ caught.

And my thing Halloween is this, if he really didn't know then whose fault is that? I would find it extremely hard to believe that when the NFL sends down its list of banned substances they don't share that with the players and make sure they understand.

So either it is his fault or the fault of low energy. There really is no in-between

hitta 01-14-2017 07:15 PM

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Whether he knew or not is irrelevant; hopefully he learned and never does it again.

halloween 65 01-14-2017 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 733618)
And you have been educated to the fact that trading players is rare, and he is also one of the best defensive players on the squad. What is your point?

And who educated me, you. Maybe you should look at trades in the nfl, extreamly rare you say, wrong. He was good his first season, I thought we had something then he played pathetic for 2 then this year it was the adderall and you can actually say he's one of our best players, you and Mickey need to stick to the numbers. I'm hoping we draft Peppers and let the adderall king go.

K Major 01-14-2017 08:19 PM

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Wait, ... what I miss?

halloween 65 01-15-2017 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733621)
And my thing Halloween is this, if he really didn't know then whose fault is that? I would find it extremely hard to believe that when the NFL sends down its list of banned substances they don't share that with the players and make sure they understand.

So either it is his fault or the fault of low energy. There really is no in-between

I can't see Payton knowing after the viocidin scandle and I think Payton should look down on this because of the viocidin fiasco. But Vaccarro knew that adderall was pure pharmacuitical speed and the effects it brings when taken. What he spewed out of his pie hole was PR bull acting like he was the victim.

AllSaints 01-15-2017 08:23 AM

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Well with him out We saw the old age of Harper..... maybe they add him as as a coach he coached up VBell this season...

Rugby Saint II 01-16-2017 12:05 PM

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If he didn't know then it shows that he doesn't pay attention. He played better this year and was caught taking Adderall when he had great games. Each front office needs to provide a list to each player about what they can and can't put in their body. This doesn't fall on the coach as much as the player and then the front office.

Seer1 01-16-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 733593)
Because you read everything to do with football. I'll bet he doesn't.

No I really don't. I got that just from glancing at the headlines from SI. Tell me he's not checking it out JIC his picture shows up in there.

And who the **** is Low Energy?

darksoul35 01-16-2017 04:18 PM

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Multiple people have been suspended for this. Didn't he deny it and want a retest? If he didn't know why did he deny taking it at first ?

spkb25 01-16-2017 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 733774)
No I really don't. I got that just from glancing at the headlines from SI. Tell me he's not checking it out JIC his picture shows up in there.

And who the **** is Low Energy?

Sean

Seer1 01-16-2017 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733807)
Sean

Stupid ****ing name!

ChrisXVI 01-16-2017 05:55 PM

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I don't know which one of his teammates is the union rep but I'm sure he's annoyed that Vacarro made him look like he didn't do his job informing them of this stuff.

AsylumGuido 01-17-2017 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 733813)
I don't know which one of his teammates is the union rep but I'm sure he's annoyed that Vacarro made him look like he didn't do his job informing them of this stuff.

I seriously doubt the team rep would give a rat's ass. The suspension was served, the season is over and it is all behind them. The media and a few fans are making this out to be anything of note at this time.

jnormand 01-17-2017 09:16 AM

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Yeah he knew. No way he didn't. No way. Multiple players have been repremanded for using this stuff. It's his fault. It's not Payton's (as much as Spike wants it to be lol).

I like Vaccaro. He was having a great season too. I hope he's re-signed. I think he's one of our better defenders. He's not a game changer, but neither is anyone else on our defense.

spkb25 01-17-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 733808)
Stupid ****ing name!

it is the best name, love it, think smash came up with it.

Budsdrinker 01-17-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 733621)
And my thing Halloween is this, if he really didn't know then whose fault is that? I would find it extremely hard to believe that when the NFL sends down its list of banned substances they don't share that with the players and make sure they understand.

So either it is his fault or the fault of low energy. There really is no in-between

Yes there is, he's called an agent.

darksoul35 01-17-2017 07:01 PM

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I hope we do resign him. Its a lesson learned. I don't think he would do it again.

Utah_Saint 01-17-2017 07:34 PM

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I didn't know it was illegal.

The check's in the mail.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

You can keep your doctor.

Seems legit.


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