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Old 02-07-2017, 08:34 PM   #1
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Found an interesting piece of info on Michigan State's Malik McDowell from this site...

NFL draft rumors: Patrick Mahomes might be top QB; Lions want another TE | NFL | Sporting News

— I won’t focus on Oklahoma’s Joe Mixon at this time, but another player with serious (though not domestic violence in nature) character concerns is Michigan State’s Malik McDowell. According to one person close to the program, McDowell has been a substantial motivational and attitude problem for his coaching staff since his freshman year. He has cussed out teammates and coaches on the practice field, and he left the team prematurely with an “injury” late in the season. He often went off-script from the defensive game plan, and while he looked fantastic in isolation, it did him no favors with the coaching staff and some of his teammates.

One general manager told this person his team would pay McDowell's signing bonus if a team in his division drafted him in the first round. That last part is quite a hot take, but it’s notable in the sense that not only is McDowell concerning for teams, but teams are expecting him to be more of a cancer than a benefit. He reminds of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri, though Richardson’s teammate issues weren’t nearly as concerning.
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Found an interesting piece of info on Michigan State's Malik McDowell from this site...

NFL draft rumors: Patrick Mahomes might be top QB; Lions want another TE | NFL | Sporting News

— I won’t focus on Oklahoma’s Joe Mixon at this time, but another player with serious (though not domestic violence in nature) character concerns is Michigan State’s Malik McDowell. According to one person close to the program, McDowell has been a substantial motivational and attitude problem for his coaching staff since his freshman year. He has cussed out teammates and coaches on the practice field, and he left the team prematurely with an “injury” late in the season. He often went off-script from the defensive game plan, and while he looked fantastic in isolation, it did him no favors with the coaching staff and some of his teammates.

One general manager told this person his team would pay McDowell's signing bonus if a team in his division drafted him in the first round. That last part is quite a hot take, but it’s notable in the sense that not only is McDowell concerning for teams, but teams are expecting him to be more of a cancer than a benefit. He reminds of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri, though Richardson’s teammate issues weren’t nearly as concerning.
I've been trying to contact some friends in that area to find out if that's a red herring to make him drop or legit criticism...
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
Found an interesting piece of info on Michigan State's Malik McDowell from this site...

NFL draft rumors: Patrick Mahomes might be top QB; Lions want another TE | NFL | Sporting News

— I won’t focus on Oklahoma’s Joe Mixon at this time, but another player with serious (though not domestic violence in nature) character concerns is Michigan State’s Malik McDowell. According to one person close to the program, McDowell has been a substantial motivational and attitude problem for his coaching staff since his freshman year. He has cussed out teammates and coaches on the practice field, and he left the team prematurely with an “injury” late in the season. He often went off-script from the defensive game plan, and while he looked fantastic in isolation, it did him no favors with the coaching staff and some of his teammates.

One general manager told this person his team would pay McDowell's signing bonus if a team in his division drafted him in the first round. That last part is quite a hot take, but it’s notable in the sense that not only is McDowell concerning for teams, but teams are expecting him to be more of a cancer than a benefit. He reminds of Sheldon Richardson coming out of Missouri, though Richardson’s teammate issues weren’t nearly as concerning.
from every report i've seen, it seems like thats the case for him. Huge Motivational issues...takes plays off. We all have seen what happens when a player doesn't "love" football...Justin Gilbert.
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from every report i've seen, it seems like thats the case for him. Huge Motivational issues...takes plays off. We all have seen what happens when a player doesn't "love" football...Justin Gilbert.
Well, if I'm a Saints personnel man, I want to do some in-depth background work and have a couple of interviews, maybe break bread and find out what's going on with him...

Really like Andrus Peat, but we let Marcus Peters go by us to the Chiefs because we didn't really find out, understand his issues...

Ireland's first season with us, so the scouts still remaining bufu'ed that one...
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Well, if I'm a Saints personnel man, I want to do some in-depth background work and have a couple of interviews, maybe break bread and find out what's going on with him...

Really like Andrus Peat, but we let Marcus Peters go by us to the Chiefs because we didn't really find out, understand his issues...
We've missed multiple players that fell right into our laps - Marcus Peters, Kwon Alexander, Deion Jones to name a few.
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We've missed multiple players that fell right into our laps - Marcus Peters, Kwon Alexander, Deion Jones to name a few.
No we didn't.

We took Michael Thomas before Deion Jones. Not a mistake.
We took Andrus Peat before Marcus Peters (drug addict team cancer). Not a mistake.
Kwon was passed up by everyone until the 4th round. Not a mistake
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