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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Some Top 20 Draft Talent Lists (Not Mock Projections) Who do ya think would be the best realistic pick at #16? Braylon Edwards WR 6-3, 210 Michigan Ronnie Brown RB 6-0, 233 Auburn Cedric Benson RB 5-10, 220 Texas Mike ...
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Some Top 20 Draft Talent Lists (Not Mock Projections)
Who do ya think would be the best realistic pick at #16? Braylon Edwards WR 6-3, 210 Michigan Ronnie Brown RB 6-0, 233 Auburn Cedric Benson RB 5-10, 220 Texas Mike Williams WR 6-5, 230 Southern California *Adam Jones CB 5-9, 187 West Virgini Carnell Williams RB 5-11, 217 Auburn (X) Antrel Rolle CB 6-1, 205 Miami *Aaron Rodgers QB 6-2, 223 California *Shawne Merriman DE 6-4, 272 Maryland Derrick Johnson LB 6-3, 242 Texas *Alex Smith QB 6-4, 217 Utah Carlos Rogers CB 6-0, 195 Auburn Erasmus James DE 6-4, 260 Wisconsin (X) Travis Johnson DT 6-4, 305 Florida State (O) Alex Barron OT 6-7, 320 Florida State David Pollack DE 6-2, 265 Georgia *Heath Miller TE 6-5, 255 Virginia Dan Cody DE 6-4, 257 Oklahoma Mark Clayton WR 5-10, 193 Oklahoma Shaun Cody DT 6-4, 293 Southern California 1. Aaron Rodgers JR QB California One of the few players in this Draft with "Star" potential. 2. Cedric Benson SR RB Texas Could have been starting for a lot of pro teams in '04. 3. Alex Smith JR QB Utah May have more potential than anyone in this Draft. 4. Braylon Edwards SR WR Michigan Big, athletic wideout who can take over a game by himself. 5. Derrick Johnson SR LB Texas Athletic linebacker with speed who simply makes plays. 6. Mike Williams JR WR USC May go higher in the '05 Draft than he would have in '04. 7. Ronnie Brown SR RB Auburn Overshadowed by Cadillac, but has better physical tools. 8. Antrel Rolle SR CB Miami (FL) Physical corner with tremendous size and athleticism. 9. Cadillac Williams SR RB Auburn Dynamic runner who is always a threat to go the distance. 10. Pac-Man Jones JR CB West Virginia Active, physical cornerback as well as a return man. 11. Erasmus James SR DE Wisconsin Needs to stay healthy but could be an impact pass rusher. 12. Marcus Spears SR DE L.S.U. Great athlete could play DE or DT depending on scheme. 13. Carlos Rogers SR CB Auburn Thorpe Award winner with great physical tools. 14. Shawne Merriman JR OLB Maryland Raw athletic speciment who could play either OLB or DE. 15. Travis Johnson SR DT Florida St. Finally lived up to his vast potential as a senior in 2004. 16. Dan Cody SR DE Oklahoma Relentless pass rusher with speed and a non-stop motor. 17. Troy Williamson JR WR South Carolina Productive and may be the fastest wideout in the Draft. 18. Heath Miller JR TE Virginia Productive and a major weapon in the passing game. 19. Alex Barron SR OT Florida St. Could be a potential franchise left tackle in the pros. 20. Thomas Davis JR OLB Georgia A rare difference maker on the defensive side of the ball. 1 Derrick Johnson OLB Texas 1 2 Cedric Benson RB Texas 2 3 Ronnie Brown RB Auburn 4 4 Shawne Merriman* DE Maryland 13 5 Antrel Rolle CB Miami 3 6 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan 5 7 Jamaal Brown OT Oklahoma 6 8 Alex Smith* QB Utah 7 9 Carnell Williams RB Auburn 15 10 Aaron Rodgers* QB Cal 8 11 Travis Johnson DT Florida State 16 12 Adam Jones* CB West Virginia 35 13 Troy Williamson* WR South Carolina 30 14 Mike Williams WR USC 27 15 Thomas Davis* FS Georgia 18 16 Erasmus James DE Wisconsin 9 17 Dan Cody DE Oklahoma 12 18 Alex Barron OT Florida State 17 19 Marcus Spears DE LSU 21 20 Carlos Rogers CB Auburn 28 1. Braylon Edwards-WR-Michigan 2. Ronnie Brown-RB-Auburn 3. Aaron Rodgers-QB-California 4. Mike Williams-WR-USC 5. Cedric Benson-RB-Texas 6. Derrick Johnson-LB-Texas 7. Alex Smith-QB-Utah 8. Adam Jones-CB-West Virginia 9. Alex Barron-OT-FSU 10. Carnell Williams-RB-Auburn 11. Heath Miller-TE-Virginia 12. Troy Williamson-WR-South Carolina 13. Antrel Rolle-CB-Miami(FL) 14. Carlos Rogers-CB-Auburn 15. Shawne Merriman-DE/LB-Maryland 16. David Pollack-DE-Georgia 17. Travis Johnson-DT-FSU 18. Dan Cody-DE-Oklahoma 19. Jamaal Brown-OT-Oklahoma 20. Channing Crowder-LB-Florida 1 Ronnie Brown RB Auburn 2 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan 3 Aaron Rodgers QB California 4 Cedric Benson RB Texas 5 Derrick Johnson LB Texas 6 Carnell Williams RB Auburn 7 Alex Smith QB Utah 8 Antrel Rolle CB Miami 9 Mike Williams WR USC 10 Shawne Merriman DE Maryland 11 Adam Jones CB West Virginia 12 Erasmus James DE Wisconsin 13 Troy Williamson WR South Carolina 14 Alex Barron OT Florida St 15 Marcus Spears DE LSU 16 Travis Johnson DT Florida 17 Carlos Rogers CB Auburn 18 David Pollack DE Georgia 19 Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma 20 Heath Miller TE Virginia 1 OLB Derrick Johnson Texas XVAL= 101.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'4" 230 4.50 Top10 Pros:Has everything that you look for physically in a LB, makes plays all over the field. Has his own strip/fumble swat when tackling. Cons:Sometimes tries to do too much, and as a result gets caught out of position. 2 RB Ronnie Brown Auburn XVAL= 100.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'1" 225 4.45 Top10 Pros:He can do it all. Great size and speed, runs people over and can get outside as a ballcarrier. Great receiver out of the backfield, good blocker. Cons:None - he is simply the best RB in the draft, and the most complete prospect at the position that I have seen in years. 3 RB Cedric Benson Texas XVAL= 99.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'0" 220 4.5 Top10 Pros:Great size, powerful runner who can break for big gainers too. Has all of the physical tools and abilities to be a Pro Bowl back. Cons:Character counts, and he is sorely lacking. Is of the "there's no I in team but there is a me" philosophy. May be the first RB taken, but is a risk. 4 WR Mike Williams* Southern California XVAL= 99.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'5" 228 4.56 Top10 Pros:All of the size and skills that you could ask for, throw the ball up there and he will take it away from everyone else. The sky is the limit. Cons:Has not played for a year, lacks blazing speed. 5 WR Braylon Edwards Michigan XVAL= 98.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'3" 206 4.45 Top10 Pros:The man can run, and when the big play calls, he answers. Good size, good hands, amazing athlete. Cons:Has had some drops with easy passes, needs to be more consistent in his effort. 6 CB Antrel Rolle Miami XVAL= 98.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'1" 205 4.45 Top10 Pros:Great cover corner, also knows how to step up and stop the run. Good blitzer, fundamentally sound. Cons:Had an off-field brush with the law last off-season, but it appears to be behind him. 7 QB Aaron Rodgers* California XVAL= 97.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'3" 220 4.47 Top10 Pros:Very accurate, with a strong arm, can make any throw asked of him. Good athletic ability, very sound mechanically. Good leader and mentality, has the ability AND desire to be a franchise QB. Cons:Size is only average, has only played 2 seasons of college ball. That said, if he declares he should be one of the top picks, if not #1 overall, come draft day. 8 DE David Pollack Georgia XVAL= 97.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'3" 280 4.75 Top10 Pros:Great motor, can do it all at DE. Great against the run, great against the pass, has a knack for making big plays. Team captain, quality leader. Cons:A little undersized when compared to the prototypical DE, could get a little stronger. Neither issue is all that important. 9 RB Carnell Williams Auburn XVAL= 96.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 5'11" 205 4.50 Top10 Pros:Amazing athletic ability, makes cuts that look impossible. Tough runner despite small size, great balance, can make people miss. Cons:Not a great blocker, his hands need work as well. 10 OT Alex Barron Florida State XVAL= 96.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'6" 315 5.1 Top10 Pros:Plays the coveted left tackle, and is the best OT prospect available. Great pass protector, good height and quick feet. Cons:Will need some more technique work, won't be an all-world level LT, but will be upper-tier. 11 FS Thomas Davis* Georgia XVAL= 95.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'1" 220 4.5 Top20 Pros:Great size and range, very strong. Solid tackler, great for run support. Best S available in draft by far. Cons:Not too many picks, still developing at the spot. 12 WR Mark Clayton Oklahoma XVAL= 95.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 5'10" 187 4.47 Top20 Pros:Great speed and hands, tough player, big YAC threat. Runs good routes, is very willing to help out in the run, fundamentally strong, understands his position well. Cons:Undersized compared to the big WR's of today, but will do just fine. 13 CB Carlos Rogers Auburn XVAL= 94.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'1" 195 4.45 Top20 Pros:Great athlete, is a playmaker. Good size and speed, natural talent. Cons:Needs to refine his techniques, be more stout against the run. 14 DE Marcus Spears Louisiana State XVAL= 94.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'4" 300 4.8 Top20 Pros:Has played and produced against top competition. Great size, solid against the run, and a deceptively productive pass rusher. Cons:Lacks top notch speed, but will be a quality player in the league. Won't be a superstar, but a great starter is not out of the question. 15 CB Brandon Browner* Oregon St. XVAL= 93.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'4" 202 4.4 Top20 Pros:Rare size and speed combo. Is a playmaker, 6 INT's as a freshman, very physical corner. Cons:Has only played 2 years at the college level, is still a little raw. 16 MLB Channing Crowder* Florida XVAL= 93.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'2" 235 4.6 Top20 Pros:He has good size and speed, is very athletic and a great tackler. Will make plays all over the field. Cons:Lack of experience (sophomore) and past injuries are cause for concern. 17 TE Heath Miller* Virginia XVAL= 92.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'5" 255 4.60 Top20 Pros:By far the best TE if he declares, a big threat as a receiver, will create mis-matches all over the field. Cons:Not as good a blocker as he could be, that part of his game needs to be refined. 18 QB Alex Smith* Utah XVAL= 92.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'4" 212 4.75 Top20 Pros:Amazing TD:INT ratio, completion percentage the last two years is also great. Takes very few sacks, doesn't throw many picks either. Extraordinarily smart, got his bachelors degree at age 20 and is currently working on a masters. Cons:Plays in a pass happy offense, mostly from the shotgun. Will need some time to become a more comfortable pocket passer in the NFL, takes off and runs a bit too much at Utah. 19 DT Travis Johnson Florida State XVAL= 91.5 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'5" 290 4.70 Top20 Pros:Good size, great speed for his position. Had a dominant senior year. Cons:Character issues off the field may come into play, has also had shoulder problems in the past. 20 OT Jammal Brown Oklahoma XVAL= 91.0 HEIGHT WEIGHT 40 TIME Projected 6'5" 310 4.9 Top20 Pros:Very athletic, should be able to play LT. Good size and quickness, good against both the pass and the run. Cons:Needs to get stronger, needs some work on run blocking technique. |
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