Wish Randy Mueller were still here?

GumboBC · 03-22-2005, 11:53 AM

"Saints general manager Randy Mueller called Albert Connell the best free agent available, especially with the team needing additional help at receiver."
http://www.detnews.com/2001/lions/0...orts-195991.htm

"We targeted Dale Carter as a priority in free agency, since we needed a strong, proven player at cornerback. Dale brings that," Saints general manager Randy Mueller said. "We believe that he is the best available cornerback in free agency."
http://www.nfl.com/ce/multi/0,3783,5123734,00.html

[Edited on 22/3/2005 by GumboBC]

saintswhodi · 03-22-2005, 12:08 PM

Ignoring the posts and just answering the question, yes. :P

GumboBC · 03-22-2005, 12:09 PM

Ignoring the posts and just answering the question, yes. :P

In other words:

I just ignore the FACTS and let\'s just go with it.

saintswhodi · 03-22-2005, 12:13 PM

Or in other words, since he left we gave up two first round picks to get Sullivan, a pick to get Tesucky, signed Orlando Ruff, Ashley Ambrose, Derrick Rodgers, let Glover leave, let Knight leave.

saintswhodi · 03-22-2005, 12:13 PM

Oh, and signed Norman Hand and Grady Jackson.

WhoDat · 03-22-2005, 12:15 PM

Right - whereas Jonathan Sullivan was a great choice to spend two first rounds picks on.

Orlando Ruff and Tebucky Jones really shored up holes in the defense.

Wayne Gandy and Victor Riley have really locked down the ends of the line.

Try this: You name Loomis\' two best moves ever, and I\'ll name Muellers. Then we\'ll go on from there. OK, I\'ll start:

Deuce McAllister, Joe Horn.

Your turn. The two better players Loomis has brought in are...

GumboBC · 03-22-2005, 12:15 PM

Le Roi Glover, Joe Johnson, Willie Roaf ..

Whose watch was that on?

You guessed it. Randy \"The Great\" Meuller.

bignic26 · 03-22-2005, 12:23 PM

All jokes aside, what happened with Mueller? I think he was a pretty good talent guy. Maybe he wasn\'t the best GM in the league but for the most part he had a good eye for talent. Why did he get shown the door? I don\'t think anybody will say that Loomis has done a better job than Mueller so far. From all that I\'ve heard, Loomis is just a numbers guy, not a football talent evaluator.

So why did they replace Randy with this nerdy Loomis character?

WhoDat · 03-22-2005, 12:24 PM

Haslett admitted that the Glover disaster was his fault.

Roaf could not have been resigned by the Saints - you know that you use it as a defense for Jim all the time.

Johnson was a screw up - but one that they claimed caught them by surprise.

In any case, I\'d rather have a guy whose decisions, good or bad, include guys like Roaf, Glover, Johnson, McAllister, R. Williams, Horn, Blake, Brooks, Hand, Jackson, Knight...

As compared to Sullivan, Ruff, Rodgers, T. Jones, Gandy, Riley...

See the difference?

GumboBC · 03-22-2005, 12:25 PM

All jokes aside, what happened with Mueller? I think he was a pretty good talent guy. Maybe he wasn\'t the best GM in the league but for the most part he had a good eye for talent. Why did he get shown the door? I don\'t think anybody will say that Loomis has done a better job than Mueller so far. From all that I\'ve heard, Loomis is just a numbers guy, not a football talent evaluator.

So why did they replace Randy with this nerdy Loomis character?

Probably because he signed players like Dale Carter and Albert Conell while letting Le\' Roi Glover, Willie Roaf, Joe Johnson walk. That would be my guess...

03-22-2005, 11:53 AM	#1
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Wish Randy Mueller were still here? "Saints general manager Randy Mueller called Albert Connell the best free agent available, especially with the team needing additional help at receiver." http://www.detnews.com/2001/lions/0...orts-195991.htm "We targeted Dale Carter as a priority in free agency, since we needed a strong, proven player at cornerback. Dale brings that," Saints general manager Randy Mueller said. "We believe that he is the best available cornerback in free agency." http://www.nfl.com/ce/multi/0,3783,5123734,00.html [Edited on 22/3/2005 by GumboBC]
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03-22-2005, 12:08 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Wish Randy Mueller were still here? Ignoring the posts and just answering the question, yes. :P

03-22-2005, 12:09 PM	#3
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Wish Randy Mueller were still here? Ignoring the posts and just answering the question, yes. :P In other words: I just ignore the FACTS and let\'s just go with it.
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Wish Randy Mueller were still here? Or in other words, since he left we gave up two first round picks to get Sullivan, a pick to get Tesucky, signed Orlando Ruff, Ashley Ambrose, Derrick Rodgers, let Glover leave, let Knight leave.

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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Wish Randy Mueller were still here? Right - whereas Jonathan Sullivan was a great choice to spend two first rounds picks on. Orlando Ruff and Tebucky Jones really shored up holes in the defense. Wayne Gandy and Victor Riley have really locked down the ends of the line. Try this: You name Loomis\' two best moves ever, and I\'ll name Muellers. Then we\'ll go on from there. OK, I\'ll start: Deuce McAllister, Joe Horn. Your turn. The two better players Loomis has brought in are...
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WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Wish Randy Mueller were still here? Haslett admitted that the Glover disaster was his fault. Roaf could not have been resigned by the Saints - you know that you use it as a defense for Jim all the time. Johnson was a screw up - but one that they claimed caught them by surprise. In any case, I\'d rather have a guy whose decisions, good or bad, include guys like Roaf, Glover, Johnson, McAllister, R. Williams, Horn, Blake, Brooks, Hand, Jackson, Knight... As compared to Sullivan, Ruff, Rodgers, T. Jones, Gandy, Riley... See the difference?
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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Wish Randy Mueller were still here? All jokes aside, what happened with Mueller? I think he was a pretty good talent guy. Maybe he wasn\'t the best GM in the league but for the most part he had a good eye for talent. Why did he get shown the door? I don\'t think anybody will say that Loomis has done a better job than Mueller so far. From all that I\'ve heard, Loomis is just a numbers guy, not a football talent evaluator. So why did they replace Randy with this nerdy Loomis character? Probably because he signed players like Dale Carter and Albert Conell while letting Le\' Roi Glover, Willie Roaf, Joe Johnson walk. That would be my guess...
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