Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE.

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2017, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

If the Saints were so badly fleeced why did none of the other 30 teams offer a better trade

From all the reports the Titans were not giving up pick 18 unless they got our round 2

The Eagles offered Jenkins and a 3+4 and preferred to buy players on one year deal

The Browns have every draft pick under the sun and no WR yet no reports of an offer

Teams were not knocking down the door for Cook so they took the best offer on the table which is his worth

Don't forget that those reports of supposed offers were based solely upon speculation. There is no way to know what was really said between the two sides.

Euphoria · 03-13-2017, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

If the Saints were so badly fleeced why did none of the other 30 teams offer a better trade

From all the reports the Titans were not giving up pick 18 unless they got our round 2

The Eagles offered Jenkins and a 3+4 and preferred to buy players on one year deal

The Browns have every draft pick under the sun and no WR yet no reports of an offer

Teams were not knocking down the door for Cook so they took the best offer on the table which is his worth

Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it.

Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up.

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2017, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it.

Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up.

You are thinking too logically.

lee909 · 03-13-2017, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it.

Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up.

Just using thm as an example
30 teams could have bettered the offer if it was so good and nobody did

voodooido · 03-13-2017, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it.

Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up.

Browns more than likely will not touch a qb until rd 2 per 3. Brock is not being released or traded. He has a upside and the browns have no one better. Even if he becomes avg as he was in Denver he will be an upgrade over what they have. As for the #12 pick, even the browns are not that dumb. They are in need of playmakers and LF7 should be there at 12. They drafted like 42 wrs last year and have got to get something out of them.
We all wanted more out of the cooks trade but we didn't get it. We need to get over it and look towards the draft. Plenty of depth on defense and wr in this draft.

Euphoria · 03-13-2017, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Browns more than likely will not touch a qb until rd 2 per 3. Brock is not being released or traded. He has a upside and the browns have no one better. Even if he becomes avg as he was in Denver he will be an upgrade over what they have. As for the #12 pick, even the browns are not that dumb. They are in need of playmakers and LF7 should be there at 12. They drafted like 42 wrs last year and have got to get something out of them.
We all wanted more out of the cooks trade but we didn't get it. We need to get over it and look towards the draft. Plenty of depth on defense and wr in this draft.

Uhm, I had to be the bearer of bad news to you... I live in Cleveland and they are shopping him hard for draft picks. Word here is that they are going to get something even a 6 or 7th if now they may cut him all together. I would argue that Cody Kesler is better and has more upside than Brock.

Sure be nice to end up with the Browns number one pick for Cooks but the vaule for a one deminsional WR ???

CheramieIII · 03-13-2017, 11:05 AM

We got a 1st and 3rd rounder for Cooks and a no good 4th to the Patriots. It's a win win. We screwed the Patriots in the deal, which never happens and we got 2 great draft picks to improve our defense. With AJ in the fold and Nick resigning we've already got the makings of a lot better defense. Byrd out of the way, resign Sterling and get a vet CB in here. Trade the 3rd back to the Patriots for Butler and draft the top 2 DE's in the first round, cornerback in the second and QB Davis Webb in the 4th!

voodooido · 03-13-2017, 11:08 AM

If the saints were smart the would ask for the 4th back with butler and give them our rd 3. They would be dropping a high contract (which they will drop anyway)and regaining a draft pick

Rugby Saint II · 03-13-2017, 04:57 PM

Meh......

03-13-2017, 11:37 AM	#2
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by lee909 If the Saints were so badly fleeced why did none of the other 30 teams offer a better trade From all the reports the Titans were not giving up pick 18 unless they got our round 2 The Eagles offered Jenkins and a 3+4 and preferred to buy players on one year deal The Browns have every draft pick under the sun and no WR yet no reports of an offer Teams were not knocking down the door for Cook so they took the best offer on the table which is his worth Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it. Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up. AsylumGuido likes this.

03-13-2017, 11:38 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by Euphoria Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it. Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up. You are thinking too logically.

03-13-2017, 11:39 AM	#4
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by Euphoria Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it. Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up. Just using thm as an example 30 teams could have bettered the offer if it was so good and nobody did

03-13-2017, 12:15 PM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,850	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by Euphoria Browns signed a WR already and Browns aren't looking for players who might talk crap or have a potential attitude any more. Apparently you talk or locker room problem they are gone. There is change in Cleveland. Cooks has bee speaking out and I don't think that administration wants that anymore or even a hint of it. Beside if they are going to try and get a QB with the 12 pick... Why would they give that up for a WR who won't play as much as a QB? The math doesn't add up. Browns more than likely will not touch a qb until rd 2 per 3. Brock is not being released or traded. He has a upside and the browns have no one better. Even if he becomes avg as he was in Denver he will be an upgrade over what they have. As for the #12 pick, even the browns are not that dumb. They are in need of playmakers and LF7 should be there at 12. They drafted like 42 wrs last year and have got to get something out of them. We all wanted more out of the cooks trade but we didn't get it. We need to get over it and look towards the draft. Plenty of depth on defense and wr in this draft.
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03-13-2017, 12:23 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by voodooido Browns more than likely will not touch a qb until rd 2 per 3. Brock is not being released or traded. He has a upside and the browns have no one better. Even if he becomes avg as he was in Denver he will be an upgrade over what they have. As for the #12 pick, even the browns are not that dumb. They are in need of playmakers and LF7 should be there at 12. They drafted like 42 wrs last year and have got to get something out of them. We all wanted more out of the cooks trade but we didn't get it. We need to get over it and look towards the draft. Plenty of depth on defense and wr in this draft. Uhm, I had to be the bearer of bad news to you... I live in Cleveland and they are shopping him hard for draft picks. Word here is that they are going to get something even a 6 or 7th if now they may cut him all together. I would argue that Cody Kesler is better and has more upside than Brock. Sure be nice to end up with the Browns number one pick for Cooks but the vaule for a one deminsional WR ??? Seer1 likes this.

03-13-2017, 11:32 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,852	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by lee909 If the Saints were so badly fleeced why did none of the other 30 teams offer a better trade From all the reports the Titans were not giving up pick 18 unless they got our round 2 The Eagles offered Jenkins and a 3+4 and preferred to buy players on one year deal The Browns have every draft pick under the sun and no WR yet no reports of an offer Teams were not knocking down the door for Cook so they took the best offer on the table which is his worth Don't forget that those reports of supposed offers were based solely upon speculation. There is no way to know what was really said between the two sides.

03-13-2017, 11:05 AM	#7
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