Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE.

Euphoria · 03-11-2017, 01:10 PM

Patriots will lose the fourth-rounder they get from the Saints | ProFootballTalk

See smart teams figure this crap out. Trade back that 4th pick and get something for it. It means nothing to NE they lose it.

halloween 65 · 03-11-2017, 01:39 PM

Question is will they be smart enough to do it?

nola_swammi · 03-11-2017, 02:14 PM

That's a great idea and it will benefit a team to take it BUT what will the offer be? Hopefully, the Texans offer a 4th and 6th.

MatthewT · 03-13-2017, 06:23 AM

Hard to believe no one wanted to move up, or did the Saints even try??? Even for a 7th round pick in the 2021 draft, or something???

dizzle88 · 03-13-2017, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Patriots will lose the fourth-rounder they get from the Saints | ProFootballTalk

See smart teams figure this crap out. Trade back that 4th pick and get something for it. It means nothing to NE they lose it.

The Patriots knew this would happen so they got rid of a pick they would have never had in the first place, smart move by them and a rather idiotic move by us.

What else is new on the Mickey & Sean show?

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2017, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The Patriots knew this would happen so they got rid of a pick they would have never had in the first place, smart move by them and a rather idiotic move by us.

What else is new on the Mickey & Sean show?

Why idiotic? If that was the only way they were going to make the deal then it had to happen. The Saints got as much as they could for Cooks in an attempt to improve the defense. Could it have been better? Yes, but only if the Patriots were willing to make it better, which they obviously weren't. Besides, what difference does it make to the Saints what happens to the pick they moved as part of the deal? It certainly makes no difference whatsoever in my mind.

lee909 · 03-13-2017, 09:16 AM

Why where the front office stupid for that

Yes they could have made another trade but that means moving backwards in round 4 to maybe get a 5th or 6th rounder

How stupid would you look on draft night if someone fell to that pick and you missed them. There is nothing stopping them doing the same trade back and gaining picks in draft night.

So what the Pats now dont loose there early 4th rounder. We have the comp pick in round 3.

I dont get this whinging that Oh the Saints have made the Pats better. When you have not got out the division in 3 years thats the first focus

AsylumGuido · 03-13-2017, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

Why where the front office stupid for that

Yes they could have made another trade but that means moving backwards in round 4 to maybe get a 5th or 6th rounder

How stupid would you look on draft night if someone fell to that pick and you missed them. There is nothing stopping them doing the same trade back and gaining picks in draft night.

So what the Pats now dont loose there early 4th rounder. We have the comp pick in round 3.

I dont get this whinging that Oh the Saints have made the Pats better. When you have not got out the division in 3 years thats the first focus

Some people simply want something gripe and moan about, lee. There doesn't have to be anything pertaining to logic involved.

dizzle88 · 03-13-2017, 10:56 AM

I'm simply saying that Cooks was worth more than what the trade entailed, we shouldn't have had to send them a 4th rounder because Cooks was worth more than the 32nd pick and a 3rd rounder.

jeanpierre · 03-13-2017, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'm simply saying that Cooks was worth more than what the trade entailed, we shouldn't have had to send them a 4th rounder because Cooks was worth more than the 32nd pick and a 3rd rounder.

While I agree that I didn't like sending the add'l pick, it's done...

Just wish there was more sanity and appreciation for draft picks by this club...

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Patriots will lose the fourth-rounder they get from the Saints \| ProFootballTalk See smart teams figure this crap out. Trade back that 4th pick and get something for it. It means nothing to NE they lose it.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by Euphoria Patriots will lose the fourth-rounder they get from the Saints \| ProFootballTalk See smart teams figure this crap out. Trade back that 4th pick and get something for it. It means nothing to NE they lose it. The Patriots knew this would happen so they got rid of a pick they would have never had in the first place, smart move by them and a rather idiotic move by us. What else is new on the Mickey & Sean show? MatthewT and Rsanders24 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,222	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by dizzle88 The Patriots knew this would happen so they got rid of a pick they would have never had in the first place, smart move by them and a rather idiotic move by us. What else is new on the Mickey & Sean show? Why idiotic? If that was the only way they were going to make the deal then it had to happen. The Saints got as much as they could for Cooks in an attempt to improve the defense. Could it have been better? Yes, but only if the Patriots were willing to make it better, which they obviously weren't. Besides, what difference does it make to the Saints what happens to the pick they moved as part of the deal? It certainly makes no difference whatsoever in my mind. CheramieIII and saintsfan1976 like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,222	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by lee909 Why where the front office stupid for that Yes they could have made another trade but that means moving backwards in round 4 to maybe get a 5th or 6th rounder How stupid would you look on draft night if someone fell to that pick and you missed them. There is nothing stopping them doing the same trade back and gaining picks in draft night. So what the Pats now dont loose there early 4th rounder. We have the comp pick in round 3. I dont get this whinging that Oh the Saints have made the Pats better. When you have not got out the division in 3 years thats the first focus Some people simply want something gripe and moan about, lee. There doesn't have to be anything pertaining to logic involved.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. I'm simply saying that Cooks was worth more than what the trade entailed, we shouldn't have had to send them a 4th rounder because Cooks was worth more than the 32nd pick and a 3rd rounder.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints can get something before sending 4th pick to NE. Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'm simply saying that Cooks was worth more than what the trade entailed, we shouldn't have had to send them a 4th rounder because Cooks was worth more than the 32nd pick and a 3rd rounder. While I agree that I didn't like sending the add'l pick, it's done... Just wish there was more sanity and appreciation for draft picks by this club...

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