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voodooido 03-13-2017 10:41 PM

NFL network mock draft.
 
1) #11--- mccaffrey- rb Stanford
1) #32---trubisky- qb NC

So I know they are smoking crack with this mock but how would you feel if the saints made these picks?

Utah_Saint 03-13-2017 11:09 PM

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I love the idea of getting McCaffrey but at this point in time, if the Saints use the #11 on an offensive player, I'm gonna be disappointed no matter who it is.

In their mock, the Saints skip on Ruben Foster. I just can't see that happening.

Jeremiah mock draft 3.0: Chargers, Saints get QB successors - NFL.com

frydaddy 03-13-2017 11:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 740507)
1) #11--- mccaffrey- rb Stanford
1) #32---trubisky- qb NC

So I know they are smoking crack with this mock but how would you feel if the saints made these picks?

Like someone kicked my dong in, seriously.

K Major 03-13-2017 11:18 PM

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Christian is a luxury pick.

Saints desperately need defensive help. Especially at pick #11. If Reuben falls to us, there is no way I'm passing on him.

blackangold 03-13-2017 11:30 PM

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actually the worst mock draft I have ever seen... Literally...

Who the **** are these guys, glad I stopped watching main stream sports networks... Geez

nola_swammi 03-13-2017 11:48 PM

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Derek Barnett
Obi Melifonwu

voodooido 03-13-2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 740513)
Derek Barnett
Obi Melifonwu

Dude if we take obi I'll be pissed. He is wayyyy overrated

jlouhill 03-14-2017 05:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 740507)
1) #11--- mccaffrey- rb Stanford
1) #32---trubisky- qb NC

So I know they are smoking crack with this mock but how would you feel if the saints made these picks?

:disgusted:

neugey 03-14-2017 05:37 AM

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I believe we should draft the best player available, but given the state of this team, I would say the BDPA (best defensive player available) for the first 3 rounds.

There are some nice-looking RB's in this draft, but to be honest we could fill that spot with a good budget free agent signing or two, rookie or someone that shakes loose from another team.

WR I hope we can find a young gym rat type like Chris Hogan or Wes Welker. The kind of guy that we haven't had since Lance Moore.

Euphoria 03-14-2017 06:09 AM

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Yes if Foster falls to us... I can't see leaving him on the board.

lee909 03-14-2017 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 740529)

WR I hope we can find a young gym rat type like Chris Hogan or Wes Welker. The kind of guy that we haven't had since Lance Moore.

Willie Snead says hello

rezburna 03-14-2017 07:22 AM

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I'd throw up.

Seer1 03-14-2017 07:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 740507)
1) #11--- mccaffrey- rb Stanford
1) #32---trubisky- qb NC

So I know they are smoking crack with this mock but how would you feel if the saints made these picks?

I truly didn't believe these kind of drugs actually existed. A crackhead wouldn't have even made these two picks!

ScottF 03-14-2017 07:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 740529)
I believe we should draft the best player available, but given the state of this team, I would say the BDPA (best defensive player available) for the first 3 rounds.

There are some nice-looking RB's in this draft, but to be honest we could fill that spot with a good budget free agent signing or two, rookie or someone that shakes loose from another team.

WR I hope we can find a young gym rat type like Chris Hogan or Wes Welker. The kind of guy that we haven't had since Lance Moore.

yeah, but there are some quality RB's still available in FA. Stopgaps for sure, but serviceable for a 2 years

Beastmode 03-14-2017 07:35 AM

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Somebody is going to nail it. Think I have seen us pick every player except a QB in these mock drafts.

Seer1 03-14-2017 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 740544)
Somebody is going to nail it. Think I have seen us pick every player except a QB in these mock drafts.

Somewhere somebody had us taking one in the third. I think it was the kid from Cal.... Yawn.

Beastmode 03-14-2017 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 740546)
Somewhere somebody had us taking one in the third. I think it was the kid from Cal.... Yawn.


We likely do but the 1st RD, difficult to gauge. What is killing us is no QB's or WR's going early. Then Cook dropped way down the list. Defenders are getting pilfered early.

It feels like what is available at 11 should be going later. Going offense might not be a bad thing at 11.

K Major 03-14-2017 08:20 AM

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FWIW, Daniel Jeremiah's first "mock" for 2016 had us taking Mackenzie Alexander with our first pick (MA went in the 2nd) :rolleyes:.

A lot of his mock selections are way off base.

Lord_Saint83 03-14-2017 09:59 AM

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No way mccaffrey is a top 15 pick and we have no starters at cb i dont think breaux will bonuce back, no free safety im not sold on bell either. He is smoking some good stuff.

voodooido 03-14-2017 10:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 740562)
No way mccaffrey is a top 15 pick and we have no starters at cb i dont think breaux will bonuce back, no free safety im not sold on bell either. He is smoking some good stuff.

Well I hope you are wrong. KV and Bell will be our starters unless we trade or trade up and get Jamal Adams or hooker falls to 11. As for bureaux is not far off now. He will bounce back and so will PJ

Lord_Saint83 03-14-2017 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 740566)
Well I hope you are wrong. KV and Bell will be our starters unless we trade or trade up and get Jamal Adams or hooker falls to 11. As for bureaux is not far off now. He will bounce back and so will PJ


I believe pj will but he will be one bad concussion away from being out of the league. That play was brutal but breaux played timid when he came back, rankins had the same injury but played fearless so i wouldn't blame the injury. As for bell as highly touted as a instinctive player while at osu he was just like someone else most ppl on here bad mouth including me stephone anthony was always a liability in coverage. And what about budda baker or that obi guy from uconn both should be there in the second round.

lee909 03-14-2017 10:53 AM

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Jeff Duncan's 2017 Saints Mock Draft 3.0
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Analyzing the Saints' draft game plan
The New Orleans Saints' 2017 draft became a lot more interesting after the trade for Brandin Cooks, which netted the club an extra first-round pick (No. 32 overall) and third-round pick (No. 103). The Saints now have five of the first 103 picks in one of the deepest drafts in years.
Here’s how I think the first 10 picks will go:
Browns: DE Myles Garrett, Texas A&M
49ers: DT Jonathan Allen, Alabama
Bears: DE Solomon Thomas, Stanford
Jaguars: FS Malik Hooker, Ohio State
Titans: SS Jamal Adams, LSU
Jets: RB Leonard Fournette, LSU
Chargers: CB Marshon Lattimore, Ohio State
Panthers: RB Dalvin Cook, Florida State
Bengals: ILB Reuben Foster, Alabama
Bills: QB DeShaun Watson, North Carolina
What that in mind, here's how I see the Saints' draft taking shape:
Charles Rex Arbogast

Round 1 (No. 11 overall): Defensive End Taco Charlton, Michigan
The Saints will have plenty of options if they stay at No. 11 but I don’t think they can pass up Charlton. We all know pass rush is the Saints’ greatest need and this selectin could come down to a choice between Charlton vs. Derek Barnett. Barnett is more consistent and productive. Charlton is more athletic and precocious. Tough call but Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis are naturally aggressive and the ceiling for Charlton is greater than Barnett’s. The 6-5, 277-pound Charlton has tremendous size and has been compared to Justin Tuck and Chandler Jones. The Saints would gladly take that kind of talent alongside Cameron Jordan, Sheldon Rankins and Nick Fairley. I also loved this comment from an NFL scout about Charlton in The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: “Loved by his teammates and loves the game of football."
MLive.com

Round 1 (32): Quarterback Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech
I know what you’re thinking: Defense?! The Saints need defensive help not a backup quarterback, you idiot! I get it. But this pick is a luxury item and the Saints can afford to use it as such. Mahomes might be the most talented quarterback prospect in the draft and the Saints have to start thinking about Brees’ eventual replacement. There’s an advantage to taking Mahomes in Round 1 instead of waiting until Round 2. First-round picks receive five-year contracts compared to four-year deals for second-rounders. In the Saints’ case, the extra year would be invaluable, allowing the club to keep Brees around for the foreseeable future and groom Mahomes as the heir apparent.
David J. Phillip, AP

Round 2 (42): Cornerback Fabian Moreau, UCLA
Moreau is one of the fastest risers in the draft and he very well might be off the board at this point. The Saints could also consider a linebacker or even another pass rusher at this spot. In fact, I considered edge rushers Tim Willams and T.J. Watt here and wouldn’t argue with the Saints taking any one of them because, like cornerbacks, you can never have enough good pass rushers.
Michael Conroy, AP

Round 3: (76): Defensive end Jordan Willis, Kansas State
As noted above, you can never have enough pass rushers and Willis is one of the best in the draft. The 6-4, 255-pound Willis is a different kind of player than Charlton and would give the Saints another pass rusher for sub-packages in passing situations. Willis was the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year after leading his team with 17.5 tackles for loss and topping the conference with 11.5 sacks. Willis is essentially a younger version of Darryl Tapp and would fill his situational role in passing situations.
Charlie Riedel, AP

Round 3 (103): Tight end Jake Butt, Michigan
Butt is an extremely productive player at a position where the Saints could use a youth transfusion. At Michigan, Butt was voted a captain and considered a leader on and off the field. He would give the Saints depth and flexibility at a key position in Sean Payton's offense.
Rob Schumacher, AP

Round 6 (196) Linebacker Jordan Evans, Oklahoma
Evans is a bit of a sleeper. He wasn’t invited to the Combine but opened eyes by running a time of 4.51 seconds at the Oklahoma Pro Day, an impressive time for a 6-2, 232-pounder. He led the Sooners in tackles (98) and interceptions (four), including two returned for scores.
Bryan Terry, NewsOK.com

Round 7 (229): Wide receiver Krishawn Hogan, Marian
Hogan is the kind of late-round sleeper the Saints love to draft. He dominated at NAIA Marian, where he set school records for career receptions (263), touchdowns (42) and yards (4,395) in three seasons. At 6-2, 225 with 4.5 speed, he has the physical tools to play in the NFL but is raw. In the Saints’ system, he’d have time to develop and could become a later-round discovery. He’s one of the most intriguing stories in the draft and well worth the sixth round investment.

K Major 03-14-2017 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 740572)
I believe pj will but he will be one bad concussion away from being out of the league.

Those are my thoughts on Swann. I would cringe every time he got up slowly after a tackle or PBU. Hoping all the best for our corners this season ;).

lee909 03-14-2017 11:06 AM

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To be honest i have little faith in any of our curret CB staying healthy and really worry about having to pay Breaux big money in the coming years with the injury risk involved

SaintFanInATLHELL 03-14-2017 01:14 PM

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CheramieIII 03-14-2017 01:24 PM

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NO RB's in round 1 maybe 3 but not 1. Ruben Fosters stock has plummeted since his go to the corner incident at the combine. He will be a definite problem for any team. I would love Trubisky but he won't be there at #32. I still think we go DE and OL if we get Butler and retain Sterling.

Rugby Saint II 03-14-2017 01:52 PM

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I'd turn off the TV And go throw up!

RaginCajun83 03-14-2017 05:55 PM

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I'm putting a bullet through my tv if this becomes reality

ScottF 03-14-2017 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 740651)
NO RB's in round 1 maybe 3 but not 1. Ruben Fosters stock has plummeted since his go to the corner incident at the combine. He will be a definite problem for any team. I would love Trubisky but he won't be there at #32. I still think we go DE and OL if we get Butler and retain Sterling.

If we get Butler and keep Moore or Webb then we can go DE first and then BPA the rest of the way. Pretty good spot to be

saintsfan1976 03-14-2017 06:24 PM

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It was always Reuben Foster.

Seer1 03-14-2017 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 740733)
It was always Reuben Foster.

Provided he's still there. A lot of fake drafts have him going to Cincy.

shawnkytonk 03-14-2017 10:45 PM

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We don't want any part of this QB class......especially Mahommes.

foreverfan 03-14-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 740659)
I'd turn off the TV And go throw up!

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voodooido 03-15-2017 12:24 AM

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I want Solomon Thomas, Adams or lattimore. At 11. If they get one of those three I will be Thrilled. Conley, white, Cunningham or baker at 32. We are desperate for a cb, safety and a de.

burningmetal 03-15-2017 02:32 AM

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Provided any of them are available, I'd like to see the Saints take either Rueben Foster, Derek Barnett or Jamal Adams at #11.

Adams is most unlikely to fall there, but he has the chance to be a truly elite Safety, who provides great run support as well as excellent pass coverage. Vaccaro is solid back there, but Adams would be hard to pass up. It would take a weird series of events for him to fall to us, though.

Barnett has the best chance of providing us that much needed edge rusher at that slot, in my opinion. If they took McCaffrey there, I would become an alcoholic...

Not really, but I would be most displeased, indeed.

Seer1 03-15-2017 07:41 AM

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I could see them doing these kind of stupid picks a couple three years ago. But all of these new folks their and the really good offseason moves -including the Cooks trade- is renewing my faith. I'm actually looking forward to the draft this year. And I did survive the aneurism I suffered at the SJB pick. But just in case, I'm gonna cut out coffee and keep away from the kids starting a couple of days before the draft to make certain my stress level starts out reeeeaaally low.

jeanpierre 03-15-2017 07:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 740552)
FWIW, Daniel Jeremiah's first "mock" for 2016 had us taking Mackenzie Alexander with our first pick (MA went in the 2nd) :rolleyes:.

A lot of his mock selections are way off base.

Daniel Jeremiah, Saints Hater

jeanpierre 03-15-2017 07:59 AM

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I could see the McCaffrey pick...

Trubiskey isn't getting passed Chicago and here's why - Chicago ownership once a marketable face and with a name like Trubiskey, Chicago, Hello?

Trubiskey may be rated between 10 and 20, but when a franchise QB is there, the Bears won't have this opportunity again...

And that's assuming the 49ers don't nab Mitchell first...

K Major 03-15-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 740771)
I want Solomon Thomas, Adams or lattimore. .

I don't see Adams getting past top #10.

Side note - It's really refreshing to see these kids who I've watched since they were freshman at area Texas 6A high school programs mature into top NFL draft prospects.

Jamaal Adams - Hebron High
Soloman Thomas - Coppell High
Myles Garrett - Arlington Martin High
Marcus Murphy - Desoto High (2016 6A TX state champs)

rezburna 03-15-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 740792)
I could see the McCaffrey pick...

Trubiskey isn't getting passed Chicago and here's why - Chicago ownership once a marketable face and with a name like Trubiskey, Chicago, Hello?

Trubiskey may be rated between 10 and 20, but when a franchise QB is there, the Bears won't have this opportunity again...

And that's assuming the 49ers don't nab Mitchell first...

I agree. I don't see Trubiskey falling all the way down to the 32nd pick. He's too enticing of a prospect. The kid is 6'2". He ran a 4.6 and has great arm talent. The only thing that scares teams is his limited experience as a starting Quarterback in the NCAA. Somebody is going to take a chance though. Now if by some miracle he fell to the 2nd round...you take him. Even if the Bears don't take him, he has to get past the Jets, Bills, Browns twice, Cardinals, Broncos, and Texans to fall to 32.

As for pick 11, the player I want is Reuben Foster. However, we might not need him anymore. I suppose it depends on how our front office views him. Is he a MLB, SLB, or WLB? Evidently we view A.J. Klein as our starting MLB, so who becomes the odd man out? I'd love to have the kid though. I think he's going to be a star that we regret missing out on.

So we need pass rush. I like Derek Barnett. I like Charles Harris. I like T.J. Watt in the 2nd round. I think he could play 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB, so I view him as a DE due to our system. It's probably imperative we grab one of those three guys. The draft can't get here soon enough.


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