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AsylumGuido 03-15-2017 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 740972)
And that's the problem. He should have scouts to evaluate. Stop going after the popular cause most of them with good agents will have them on papa john commercials
No, the point I was making is that Payton and his new personnel crew deal with the talent evaluations and acquisition. Not Loomis.

hagan714 03-15-2017 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 740950)
Hagan, my friend. What supposed money is he demanding? His agent just came out a couple of days ago saying they haven't spoken to the Patriots at all since the end of the season. He said all claims money are all speculation by the press.

When are you ever going to stop believing every bit of bull crap media hype that you read?
he is saying "not since the end of this season" that's 2017. But they were talking contracts all of the 2016 season. So do not believe an agent so quickly. Agents are sleazy political sales men and nothing more. If he was reasonable the pats would have already signed him. They have plenty of cash to spend still in FA.

nola_swammi 03-15-2017 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 740971)
Malcolm Butler proves NFL scouting combine not only path to stardom

"It was Josh Boyer, the Patriots' defensive back coach. He could offer Butler a tryout the next weekend in Foxborough. The Patriots would fly Butler to New England, but Butler would have to sign a waiver in order to participate.
'I don't think he was even off the plane and on the ground for half an hour before they had him run the 40. And he ran a 4.4, and they called and said they were going to keep him,' Simpson said."
I wouldn't trust no patriots staff when their trying to trade him. You are correct, sorry but I do like to see proof. I can not possibly see ANYONE improving their time by 2 tenth of a second in that short amount of time. If he did he need to be tested. STILL WITH THIS MANY OF TALENTED DBS IN THIS DRAFT I would chance it on a pick instead of a high price scheme player

jlouhill 03-15-2017 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 740976)
I wouldn't trust no patriots staff when their trying to trade him. You are correct, sorry but I do like to see proof. I can not possibly see ANYONE improving their time by 2 tenth of a second in that short amount of time. If he did he need to be tested. STILL WITH THIS MANY OF TALENTED DBS IN THIS DRAFT I would chance it on a pick instead of a high price scheme player
You asked for the link. Now you don't believe it? They weren't trying to trade him when they brought him in for a look see.

nola_swammi 03-15-2017 09:08 PM
Re: Film Study: If Saints Trade for Malcolm Butler, What Are They Getting?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 740973)
No, the point I was making is that Payton and his new personnel crew deal with the talent evaluations and acquisition. Not Loomis.
i thought Ireland was Loomis choice. I believe I heard last year that Payton had a problem with Loomis cause he wasn't that devoted to the team (believing too much time was being spent on the Pelicans) if I can find the evidence I'll post

nola_swammi 03-15-2017 09:13 PM
Re: Film Study: If Saints Trade for Malcolm Butler, What Are They Getting?
 
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Originally Posted by jlouhill (Post 740978)
You asked for the link. Now you don't believe it? They weren't trying to trade him when they brought him in for a look see.
I said was sorry, I seen it therefore I believe you. I just don't feel the time was accurate. Tape show that he played with help over the top. I still don't believe he is a match for our defensive scheme

voodooido 03-15-2017 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 740963)
Aquib Talib, Ramsey, Xavier Rhodes
You don't even know the top man cbs. These 3 are not on the level of butler. Not even close. I would say butler is just as good as Sherman and Norman. A step down from Peterson but who isn't????

aquaboogie 03-15-2017 10:13 PM
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Whatever it takes to improve the secondary. He is not Deion Sanders, but would be our best CB. With the current rules favoring the offense, every DB is going to get beat. I'm interested in who is going to play Free Safety. That is an obvious need right now.

K Major 03-15-2017 10:20 PM
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Malcolm Butler arrives in New Orleans; here's how Saints could keep him around | Saints | theadvocate.com

jlouhill 03-15-2017 10:28 PM
Re: Film Study: If Saints Trade for Malcolm Butler, What Are They Getting?
 
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 740980)
I said was sorry, I seen it therefore I believe you. I just don't feel the time was accurate. Tape show that he played with help over the top. I still don't believe he is a match for our defensive scheme
Well he can't be any worse than what we've got. As long as we don't overpay for him. I feel he would be an upgrade but we actually won't know unless we sign him. Hopefully, like I said, it's at the right price.


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