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The Dude 04-05-2017 09:57 PM

Richard Sherman....
 
Seattle entertaining offers to move him. I have even heard late 1st or early second rd for him. Thoughts? Good locker room guy and a leader plus we have a good trade relationship with seattle. And he would come cheaper than butler. for the next 2 years anyway.

st thomas 04-05-2017 10:02 PM

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man thats one of dam what does he have left. hes going to start holding on like browner , its coming

The Dude 04-05-2017 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 743900)
man thats one of dam what does he have left. hes going to start holding on like browner , its coming

He just turned 28. I think he has 2 more years of pro bowl if not all pro level play in him. After that his contract is up.

st thomas 04-05-2017 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 743910)
He just turned 28. I think he has 2 more years of pro bowl if not all pro level play in him. After that his contract is up.

still young and full of spunk but he was getting picked on lately and successfully.

shawnkytonk 04-05-2017 10:26 PM

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If Chandler Jones only yields a 3rd rounder, with Sherman's decline he might be worth a 5th.

Beastmode 04-05-2017 10:47 PM

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He's 29 and change. Also cheats. Was fairly good at cheating but now it's harder to conceal. If you want a lot of flags on the field go for it.

SmashMouth 04-05-2017 10:48 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/AR5Hid3.gif

AsylumGuido 04-05-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 743899)
Seattle entertaining offers to move him. I have even heard late 1st or early second rd for him. Thoughts? Good locker room guy and a leader plus we have a good trade relationship with seattle. And he would come cheaper than butler. for the next 2 years anyway.

Heard today that they are entertaining the same manner as the Patriots are in trading Tom Brady.

MEDIA HYPE, PEOPLE!

They said they would listen to offers. EVERYBODY listens to offers. It cost nothing to listen to offers. It doesn't mean there is a chance in hell of doing anything concerning the offers.

Heard a late first or early second from whom? A speculating blogger? When are you people going to get it?

:rolleyes:

voodooido 04-05-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 743899)
Seattle entertaining offers to move him. I have even heard late 1st or early second rd for him. Thoughts? Good locker room guy and a leader plus we have a good trade relationship with seattle. And he would come cheaper than butler. for the next 2 years anyway.

I would rather wake up with my face stapled to the carpet. I would pull for him to blow out a knee on every play. I despise tht douche bag.

jnormand 04-06-2017 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 743928)
I would rather wake up with my face stapled to the carpet. I would pull for him to blow out a knee on every play. I despise tht douche bag.

I can't stand him. He's a cheater. He likes to hold. He acts like he's this badass, but only covers one side of the field and if the #1 WR isn't on his side then he doesn't cover him. He benefited from good safety help and I believe it made him look better than he is.

He's a quality CB, but he's annoying and a loud mouth. He gets a away with being a loud mouth because people think he's so sophisticated and intelligent.

No thanks.

burningmetal 04-06-2017 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 743926)
Heard today that they are entertaining the same manner as the Patriots are in trading Tom Brady.

MEDIA HYPE, PEOPLE!

They said they would listen to offers. EVERYBODY listens to offers. It cost nothing to listen to offers. It doesn't mean there is a chance in hell of doing anything concerning the offers.

Heard a late first or early second from whom? A speculating blogger? When are you people going to get it?

:rolleyes:

I'm not going to say that Sherman definitely gets traded, but you aren't really correct in calling this media hype. Because I just heard today that Seattle's GM said the trade talk about Sherman "is real".

Now, when you consider that most GM's and coaches will tell you a report is NOT real, even if it IS real, it's pretty telling that the GM in this case is not denying anything, and comes right out and confirms the talk is real.

So, while you are poo pooing a report, as usual, you might want to check a little more into it first.

jnormand 04-06-2017 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 743934)
I'm not going to say that Sherman definitely gets traded, but you aren't really correct in calling this media hype. Because I just heard today that Seattle's GM said the trade talk about Sherman "is real".

Now, when you consider that most GM's and coaches will tell you a report is NOT real, even if it IS real, it's pretty telling that the GM in this case is not denying anything, and comes right out and confirms the talk is real.

So, while you are poo pooing a report, as usual, you might want to check a little more into it first.

You've got a point there Metal.

Seer1 04-06-2017 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 743925)

Talk about playing chicken! I'm with Saint Thomas on this one. I'm not sure he has enough left in the tank to be worth it. I can't see the Hawks trying to trade him if he did.

hagan714 04-06-2017 07:26 AM

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Are we building a defense?

or

Are we making a super bowl run?

I am stuck on "we building a defense". So the answer is no thank you we are not at the point were a huge contract on defense will get us a ring

people really do not study what the pats do in between getting rings.

rezburna 04-06-2017 07:30 AM

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I'd give up the our late 1st rounder or a 2nd round pick for Sherman. He's the kind of the guy this locker room needs. Loud and in your face. Sean Payton wants to play like Seattle. Cool. Get their best corner.

Seer1 04-06-2017 07:38 AM

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There are a couple of articles over on SI.com. One of them had some great points about Richard's growing older and what he's no longer bringing to the field with him. I was going to post up the links except, 1. They were in Penis King's column and 2. One of them began by talking about Tony Choke Romo's "legacy" (really?). They're real easy to find however.

darksoul35 04-06-2017 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 743934)
I'm not going to say that Sherman definitely gets traded, but you aren't really correct in calling this media hype. Because I just heard today that Seattle's GM said the trade talk about Sherman "is real".

Now, when you consider that most GM's and coaches will tell you a report is NOT real, even if it IS real, it's pretty telling that the GM in this case is not denying anything, and comes right out and confirms the talk is real.

So, while you are poo pooing a report, as usual, you might want to check a little more into it first.

They also interviewed Shermans brother and he was saying it would be a win win situation. I think there is a good chance that they trade him but I wouldn't break the bank for a almost 30 year old corner. I think we have above average corners we just need health and a pass rush.

ChrisXVI 04-06-2017 07:47 AM

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Does Earl Thomas come with him? Otherwise he'll suck for us.

AsylumGuido 04-06-2017 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 743934)
I'm not going to say that Sherman definitely gets traded, but you aren't really correct in calling this media hype. Because I just heard today that Seattle's GM said the trade talk about Sherman "is real".

Now, when you consider that most GM's and coaches will tell you a report is NOT real, even if it IS real, it's pretty telling that the GM in this case is not denying anything, and comes right out and confirms the talk is real.

So, while you are poo pooing a report, as usual, you might want to check a little more into it first.

I'm not saying that NOTHING has been said, I'm saying that any talk of actual demands for specific picks and such are media fabricated. I don't doubt that Seattle is open to inquiries about all of their players, as should every franchise be at this time of the year. It is when these speculations about what pick or picks would be needed become taken as actual demands that I blame media hype.

As for Schneider's comment, of course he is going to play along, and most likely embellish. It gives the team more leverage in dealings with Sherman.

K Major 04-06-2017 08:13 AM

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Any chance we can get Mike McKenzie back?

WillMacKenzie 04-06-2017 08:15 AM

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Unless Charmin can rush the passer across from Cam Jordan, I'd say pass.

NonieT 04-06-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 743899)
Seattle entertaining offers to move him. I have even heard late 1st or early second rd for him. Thoughts? Good locker room guy and a leader plus we have a good trade relationship with seattle. And he would come cheaper than butler. for the next 2 years anyway.

I'd rather "Drink muddy water and sleep in a hollow log." No thanks. Don't want Brandon Browner lite.

voodooido 04-06-2017 02:44 PM

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Seattle Seahawks also initiated Richard Sherman talks

LOL they dont even want him anymore

ChrisXVI 04-07-2017 04:44 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C81xFK_U...jpg&name=large

jnormand 04-07-2017 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 744086)

What the???? "Odds on his team for week 1?" Dayum, they'll make odds for anything now. If I bet on that, I wouldn't bet on the Saints.

Utah_Saint 04-07-2017 07:39 PM

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According to Bleacher Report, the Seahawks are looking for a 1st and a 3rd or a good player and a high draft pick.

Also from Bleacher Report, NFL executives do not think Seattle is seriously shopping him. These executives believe this is more a message to Sherman than serious trade talks.

QBREES9 04-07-2017 10:08 PM

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Hell, bring him in.

The Dude 04-09-2017 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 743945)
Are we building a defense?

or

Are we making a super bowl run?

I am stuck on "we building a defense". So the answer is no thank you we are not at the point were a huge contract on defense will get us a ring

people really do not study what the pats do in between getting rings.

Not me. For this year at least it's win now. We already have some good people in place on D that are young. Brees at Qb is our best chance at winning. After 2 years, or as soon as his play drops off then you sacrifice a season or two to build.

halloween 65 04-09-2017 06:00 AM

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I think Seattle is looking at the butt load of CB's in this years draft and licking their lips like we should be. We're in great shape to draft a good young cb. and a S this season and there are plenty there. I would pass on Sherman simply because of the draft. I also hope we don't trade a pick for Butler. Ireland when in Miami drafted a fleet of rookie cb. and S in one draft and their secondary was good. I would't mind him doing that here. They grew together as a unit like they should.

saintsfan1976 04-09-2017 07:40 AM

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Anthony and 3rd?

SmashMouth 04-09-2017 07:59 AM

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Let's pass on Shermie. This is our chance with the draft this year.

ScottF 04-09-2017 09:49 AM

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He's not young, but I'm not sure saying he is in decline is accurate. He doesn't miss games, his tackle totals are consistent, and he does bring big time swagger.
Trade #32 for 3 pro bowl years? I'd do that. Day one, he would be our best defensive player.

burningmetal 04-09-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 743949)
They also interviewed Shermans brother and he was saying it would be a win win situation. I think there is a good chance that they trade him but I wouldn't break the bank for a almost 30 year old corner. I think we have above average corners we just need health and a pass rush.

Yeah it's sounding like a possibility, at least, but I'm not enamored with the idea, either. He's more name than game, at this point. If he winds up here, I hope I'm wrong about him. He probably can still be good, even outside of that Seattle system, but not nearly what he used to be.

burningmetal 04-09-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 743954)
I'm not saying that NOTHING has been said, I'm saying that any talk of actual demands for specific picks and such are media fabricated. I don't doubt that Seattle is open to inquiries about all of their players, as should every franchise be at this time of the year. It is when these speculations about what pick or picks would be needed become taken as actual demands that I blame media hype.

As for Schneider's comment, of course he is going to play along, and most likely embellish. It gives the team more leverage in dealings with Sherman.

Of course you wouldn't admit to being wrong about something. You said they are entertaining the idea of trading Sherman as much as the Pats are in trading Tom Brady (paraphrasing).

Meaning you aren't just talking about demands, you're talking about the likelihood of trading him, period. You never miss a chance to call a report false, without having any knowledge yourself, and then call people out for entertaining whatever the report is about. It'd be one thing if it were some fan site just blowing smoke and we were all making a big deal out of it. But that isn't the case here.

And no, Seattle's GM isn't "playing along". Did you miss the part where I said that most GM's will deny a report even if it is true? Because as long as that guy is still on your team, you don't want to make the situation any more tense than it already is, in case you end up keeping that player. Also, contrary to your opinion, it does not give the team more leverage. Teams can have internal conversations with one another about players. Talking about it publicly doesn't help them and, as I said, only serves to sour the relationship with the player. Which, if the Seahawks are planning on trying to extend Sherman at a discounted price, will not serve them well.

Other teams can sense that, and they will get the idea that the Seahawks probably will want to trade him now rather than let a potentially disgruntled player stay on their team, possibly get hurt, and have ZERO trade value going into the last year of his contract. And all of that stands to drive down his current trade value, due to the 'hawks urgency to get whatever they can, while they can.

That's a pretty good reason NOT to "play along".

rezburna 04-09-2017 07:31 PM

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I can't wait for them to pull the trigger on this trade and bring Richard Sherman to New Orleans. Instant upgrade. He's head and shoulders above any DB on this team. He'd be the best defensive back we've had sign Darren Sharper, and the best corner we've had since Mike McKenzie. The Saints have to compete now. All these dreams of Brees playing at an elite level until 45 aren't realistic. Let's make it happen.

shawnkytonk 04-09-2017 07:45 PM

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He's not worth the 32, and he got ABUSED last season. As stated before, Earl Thomas was a huge help with his success. NO doesn't have that safety talent. Pass on the asking price. He isn't worth a player and high draft pick.

voodooido 04-09-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 744229)
I can't wait for them to pull the trigger on this trade and bring Richard Sherman to New Orleans. Instant upgrade. He's head and shoulders above any DB on this team. He'd be the best defensive back we've had sign Darren Sharper, and the best corner we've had since Mike McKenzie. The Saints have to compete now. All these dreams of Brees playing at an elite level until 45 aren't realistic. Let's make it happen.


I would rather slam my ball sack in a door. Before every game I would pray he blows out a knee.

ChrisXVI 04-09-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 744231)
I would rather slam my ball sack in a door. Before every game I would pray he blows out a knee.

Damn dude.

ScottF 04-09-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 744230)
He's not worth the 32, and he got ABUSED last season. As stated before, Earl Thomas was a huge help with his success. NO doesn't have that safety talent. Pass on the asking price. He isn't worth a player and high draft pick.

abused? Really?

Year-end cornerback rankings: Richard Sherman lands at No. 1 - NFL.com

jeanpierre 04-10-2017 11:13 AM

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