Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats

GumboBC · 03-24-2005, 01:06 PM

I\'m not calling you a liar, saintwhodi. I looked at those links and it didn\'t show \"passes thrown to\" for all receivers. Just the top 20 receivers in the NFL.

Link?

saintswhodi · 03-24-2005, 01:06 PM

Just to show you are evn more a liar, here is Wayne\'s stats from the other thread. Targets is at the bottom, just like Harrison, just like Stokley, just like Horn.

http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...5477&Submit=Go

Care to explain yourself?

saintswhodi · 03-24-2005, 01:08 PM

And just for Who, Reggie Wayne had more TDs than Joe and just 160 something less yards on 17 FEWER catches. I guess that makes Wayne top 5 too.

WhoDat · 03-24-2005, 01:17 PM

He was pretty damn close last season - yes. Do you disagree?

saintswhodi · 03-24-2005, 01:20 PM

Yes I do disagree. Reggie Wayne is not a top 5 receiver. Although I do wish we would trade Joe for him, younger, faster, stronger, and will put up about the same if not better stats. But we gotta get AB to get tunnel vision with him to do that though............

GumboBC · 03-24-2005, 01:24 PM

saintwhodi --

Here\'s the bottom line ...

Brooks only threw the ball to Joe Horn 28.2% of the time.
Manning threw the ball to Marvin Harrison 28.0% of the time.

Where did Brooks throw the ball too the other 71.8% of the time?

Maybe Brooks threw the ball to to Deuce more than Peyton did to his RB. Maybe Brooks threw the ball to the TE more than Peyton threw to his TE.

One think is FOR SURE, though .. Brooks spread the ball about just as much as Peyton Manning did.

78.2% of Brooks passes went to someone other than Horn.
78.0% of Petyon\'s passes went to someone other than Harrison.

Your orginal point was that Brooks \"has tunnel vision\" for Horn.

That\'s been proven incorrect. And it\'s been proven that Brooks distributes the ball as much as Petyon Manning. Whether that be to his number 2 or 3 receivers or a TE, FB, RB, or whatever.

I rest my case.

[Edited on 24/3/2005 by GumboBC]

saintswhodi · 03-24-2005, 01:24 PM

This is to Gumbo. I was enjoying playing this game with you, until you tried to insinuate I was a liar, even though you didn\'t directly say it. Then you tell people to disregard my stats like I would pull foolishness out my ass just to prove a point. That\'s you not me. SO at this point, on this subject, I really do not care what you find. I am certain it will be unfair and biased, quite the opposite of how I tried to make it. DO whatever you want, I will not reply without an apology. You were out of line, especially since I had posted the stats in the other thread. All you had to do was look there, but it shows how little attention you actually pay to people\'s posts when you are losing, and start to attack their character.

GoldenTomb · 03-24-2005, 01:25 PM

Top 5 Recievers

Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Hines Ward
Marvin Harrison
Torry Holt

Would anyone put Reggie Wayne or Joe Horn in anyone\'s spot above?

GumboBC · 03-24-2005, 01:28 PM

Well ... I\'ll admit I was using your source of stats but just getting the number of passes thrown from another section of that site. And when I couldn\'t find \'em and I asked you for a source and you didn\'t readily provide one ... then it made me wonder.

My apologies for the misunderstanding..

saintswhodi · 03-24-2005, 01:31 PM

Cool and the gang.

But you still seem to be missing the point, so I will still just back out of this disagreement. I don\'t know how many other ways it can be explained, and there is no longer any point in arguing about it. So until the next disagreement, have a good one. :salute:

03-24-2005, 01:06 PM	#21
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats I\'m not calling you a liar, saintwhodi. I looked at those links and it didn\'t show \"passes thrown to\" for all receivers. Just the top 20 receivers in the NFL. Link?
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03-24-2005, 01:06 PM	#22
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats Just to show you are evn more a liar, here is Wayne\'s stats from the other thread. Targets is at the bottom, just like Harrison, just like Stokley, just like Horn. http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...5477&Submit=Go Care to explain yourself?

03-24-2005, 01:08 PM	#23
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats And just for Who, Reggie Wayne had more TDs than Joe and just 160 something less yards on 17 FEWER catches. I guess that makes Wayne top 5 too.

03-24-2005, 01:17 PM	#24
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats He was pretty damn close last season - yes. Do you disagree?
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03-24-2005, 01:20 PM	#25
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats Yes I do disagree. Reggie Wayne is not a top 5 receiver. Although I do wish we would trade Joe for him, younger, faster, stronger, and will put up about the same if not better stats. But we gotta get AB to get tunnel vision with him to do that though............

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03-24-2005, 01:24 PM	#26
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats saintwhodi -- Here\'s the bottom line ... Brooks only threw the ball to Joe Horn 28.2% of the time. Manning threw the ball to Marvin Harrison 28.0% of the time. Where did Brooks throw the ball too the other 71.8% of the time? Maybe Brooks threw the ball to to Deuce more than Peyton did to his RB. Maybe Brooks threw the ball to the TE more than Peyton threw to his TE. One think is FOR SURE, though .. Brooks spread the ball about just as much as Peyton Manning did. 78.2% of Brooks passes went to someone other than Horn. 78.0% of Petyon\'s passes went to someone other than Harrison. Your orginal point was that Brooks \"has tunnel vision\" for Horn. That\'s been proven incorrect. And it\'s been proven that Brooks distributes the ball as much as Petyon Manning. Whether that be to his number 2 or 3 receivers or a TE, FB, RB, or whatever. I rest my case. [Edited on 24/3/2005 by GumboBC]
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03-24-2005, 01:25 PM	#28
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats Top 5 Recievers Randy Moss Terrell Owens Hines Ward Marvin Harrison Torry Holt Would anyone put Reggie Wayne or Joe Horn in anyone\'s spot above?
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03-24-2005, 01:28 PM	#29
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats Well ... I\'ll admit I was using your source of stats but just getting the number of passes thrown from another section of that site. And when I couldn\'t find \'em and I asked you for a source and you didn\'t readily provide one ... then it made me wonder. My apologies for the misunderstanding..
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03-24-2005, 01:31 PM	#30
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Proof that Brooks didn't inflate Horn's stats Cool and the gang. But you still seem to be missing the point, so I will still just back out of this disagreement. I don\'t know how many other ways it can be explained, and there is no longer any point in arguing about it. So until the next disagreement, have a good one. :salute: