AP is close to deal with Saints
 

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At the right price fine by me.

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Apparently the deal is around 3M which is fine by me, he and Ingram could make a formidable 1-2 punch.

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Excellent news.

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Phenomenal TH at one time.? How much has in the tank. It's about time we hit on an aging star 🌟

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I'm okay with 3 million a year; now the question is: Would we get the AP of old?

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He must've not had many offers if he's signing for 3 million a year.

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I hate him as a man, but he's a legend. Interesting signing if it does happen.

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3ml could be a steal
Cant imsgine MI too happy. Week 1 im giving AP the ball amd telling him too go to town

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Probably flashes of it. Anything more than that highly unlikely.

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A bit greedy of you, wouldn't you say?

The new AP gets 5-6 carries per game until Ingram goes down for 3 games. I'll bet we get the same level of production from AP as we got from Hightower.

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He was injured last year the year before put up what 1500 yards. Barring 2 season hit by injury his worst year is 970 yards in 12 games. Again except them two years he's never run was under double digit TDs. Ingrams never run for double dogit TD. Now he may be on the decline but Ingrams not exactly shown he can stay healthy,6 season only 16 games twice,13 games or under 4 times.

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There would be absolutely nothing wrong with that...

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Barring injury, he's still a freak... and a highly productive one. This definitely would be an interesting signing.

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Wow, I didn't see that coming but I am ok with it.

We had better take advantage of this and get us some help on the OL.

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Time to draft defense if we sign AP that would mean we've saved a draft pick and still have Lasco. Gimme' an O-lineman and a WR in the first three rounds then go defense the rest of the way.

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Who is our best bet/biggest need at OL?

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I'm cautiously optimistic if this is true. Cautious because for this to work we have to commit to the running game (something Payton often struggles with) more than we have in the past. I've lost count of how many times we start out a game trying to run the ball and if it doesn't work after a few runs we just go pass happy.

Here's hoping we didn't sign him just for Drew to continue to drop back and throw 35+ times a game.

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Why?

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If this happens then the thought of drafting Mcaffery is probably off the table, which is ok w me. Our first 2 picks really need to be defense.

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not to sure about that

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True. You never know w SP

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Just turned 32, but has missed 2 of last 3 seasons... is that good or bad?

considering we paid Sproles $5 mill a a year and Reggie similar to that for the same job, I like it

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Don't like signing a child abuser at all, I hope it's not true. I'll pull for the saints either way, I'll just not cheer that child abuser

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It's not going to go down like that. AP has spent his career lining up in the 'I' and having the ball handed to him 20+ times a game. That is not the Saints' offense.

His primary role? Decoy. He'll get the ball just enough to draw the defense to the LOS. He'll get the ball sometime on 1st and 10. Sometime on 3rd and 2.

Ingram has developed himself into a 3 down back in the Saints' offense. He can run efficiently, catch the ball in the flat, and pickup the blitz.

AP doesn't have as effective a skillset. And the Saints are not going to change their offensive philosophy to accommodate what AP does best.

So don't go thinking that suddenly the Saints will become LSU. It's not going down that way.

SFIAH

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Um, definitely not the same job. There's no way in hell that AP is coming in to play the joker role in the Saints offense.

Dude is a backup insurance policy and spot starter if necessary. Like has been said elesewhere in this thread, he'll get a slice of Hightower's carries.

It's the #2 RB by committee role that has been served by Hightower, Robinson, and Ivory in the past.

BTW Sproles didn't get $5 million a year. He was traded to the Eagles because the Saints were unwilling to pay him $3.4 million IIRC:

https://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2014...orleans-saints


SFIAH

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Wow. How quickly we forget. Dude was essentially suspended for a season because he whupped his 4 year old son bloody with a switch.

Legendary football player? Definitely. Enlightened parent? Not a chance.

SFIAH

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Good points made, no doubt. But if only one guy asks you to dance...

Better points made by SFIAH; we aren't changing for AP.
I agree that Ingram sees the biggest change, as he finds himself on the field more for 3rd down and less on 1-2. Sproles only ran for 1000 yards in 3 years here, 5-6 carries per game. Of course he caught more than that, averaging about 12 touches a game.
If AP got 10-12 carries a game and Ingram 3-4 more passing targets, we'd be in very good shape.

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Wonder what the contract length is and if we left ourselves an out if it doesn't work out right. Would hate to see dead money.

But dang if this won't commit Payton to running the ball, nothing will.

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Probably 2 years. First year guaranteed week one of the season. A roster bonus paid the first week of league year 2018. So a one year contract if he makes it through training camp that can become a two year contract if the season works out. No dead money to speak of.

Nothing will. I keep telling ya'll (and my own brother, who would prefer the Saints be LSU) that we have 10 seasons of evidence of the Payton-Carmichael-Brees DNA. They are not going to run the ball. They are not going to run the offense through the running game. They are not going to keep one package out on the field. That isn't the Saints offense, and nothing short of all three leaving the organization is going to change it.

The reason that Ingram is now the near perfect back for this system is that he runs the ball efficiently. He can get 15-18 touches and end up with over 100 scrimmage yards both running and catching the ball. AP isn't going to change that. AP isn't going to change the offense.

To improve the run game, improve the defense. The Saints run the ball when up by 10,14,17,21+ in the second half. Poor defense makes this a rarity.

An improved defense will make the rush game more effective. Having Ingram and AP pounding the ball in the 4th quarter will be effective.

But if the score is 35-27 with the Saints on the losing end, you can forget it.

SFIAH

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I'm anxious for this deal to get finished and to see this play out on the field. We don't need AP to pound it 30 times a game, and he doesn't need that many carries to be effective. When we get up, we give them a heavy dose of AP and Ingram. Simple as that.

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Why does it seem I see the stall tactic fail more than succeed?

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RUNNING BACK SOLVED! Now back to defense the 1st 2 rounds of the draft

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LG backup

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AP needs to be given the rock week 1 at least because Drew is not shredding that defense on the road.

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Hope it's another cRappaport BS report