Reuben Foster
 

Not invited to the draft and may tumble out of the 1st round. Do we take him at 32?

Former Alabama LB Reuben Foster not invited to NFL Draft

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Reuben Foster at 32? It's a steal, not a deal.

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Not fired up at him at 11, but would dance naked on YouTube if we got him at 32!!!

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I'd still take him at 11!

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Seriously! Blah, blah, blah. Grab his monster tackling ass at eleven, show a remote of him giving Roger the bird and get this party started. So far he's gotten into an argument with a nurse and drank too many fluids at the wrong time. Oh the freakin' drama!

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is this actually going to be rehashed on a third thread?

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Not going to happen!might not get past #9

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What the hell else is there to do on the Tuesday before the draft? Hell I'm even clicking on willsaint81 threads and I swore I'd never do THAT again...

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This is a strange draft. QB and WR are weak then some good players with issues but legally cleared but still frowned upon. Then there is a tank RB that people either hate him or love him that is either 241lbs or he's 228 lbs but runs a 4.5 at either weight. Then a stud smaller RB with a highlight reel of him running through massive gaping holes and nobody says a word. Who cares? It looks cool.

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Foster is the type of LB we've needed for years. He's better than Te'O, better than Klein, better than Ellerbe.

We would be foolish to pass on him given the chance.

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Better than a healthy Ellerbe? C'mon man. Foster hadn't played a down at the elite level yet.

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Neither has Miles Garrett. Does that mean Garrett is no better than anyone on roster?

Is Fournette better than Cadet?

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What's a "healthy Ellerbe"?

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😂😂😂

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Until any of them prove it, no. Ellerbe's injuries are well documented, but he's really good when he's out there. Cadet has never been really good, so I'm not big on that comparison, but I won't say Fournette is better than him until he proves it.

But you do draft on potential, and with that I would take Foster. Ellerbe is no scrub when he's out there, for people to declare that a rookie, who hasn't played a down, is better than him.

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Ellerbe is already on the injury report for week 1...

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Id still take him at 11. And i firmly believe he would habe failed the test. Its a mistake,so long as not repeated no issue. Noway he falls out of round one. Far too much takent

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Yes I think this is going to be the stranges drafts we have seen.

Here is the issue so many team up top that need QB's and they aren't there. So they should want to move down which makes it easy for teams to move up and get a top player they need.

Bad thing for us is that we need so much to improve our D that moving up doesn't make sense. Sit tight and see who falls to us. We will get a player but I can't help but wonder... The crazy part is that we essentially can have any player in this draft that we want.

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BPA if you did your homework and it all check out

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A healthy Ellerbe is an impact player who immediately makes our defense better.

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Sorry the way our D plays... no one's job is safe.

If we draft BPA and they turn out better so be it. We are in this spot because no one of them go the job done.

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I believe you! But he hasn't done either - be healthy or make our defense better. Plus he's 32 in November. Please don't tell me you're counting on him to be the man this season either...

Reuben is an upgrade.

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Ellerbe is unreliable has never been able to stay healthy. Foster is a better player . A difference maker we need on our defense.

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I like him. When he's on the field he does make a difference in the way the defense plays. The problem is getting him on the field. No he is not the answer but you need to bring somebody in behind him to learn the ropes.

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This team is soft and folds quickly. We have way too many "nice" guys. This team needs mean mot***** on defense. Reuben Foster can make this defense a lot scarier.

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To an extent we are soft but I always thought we were devoid of talent (excluding Cam Jordan, Rankins & St. Nick Fairley) & not enough play makers/game changers ...Reddick, Foster, Allen, McCaffrey, Hooker, Howard or Lattimore could be on the board.

Pick #11 will be golden.

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I think we've been a slow team, especially at the LB position. It's like you said, the overall athleticism is lacking. That's what has been scaring me about Derek Barnett as of late. I was content with him at 11 until I started thinking about how accomplished Hau'oli Kikiha was as a pass rusher in college, and I'm not sold on Kikiha at the moment. Marshon Lattimore or Reuben Foster at 11 and we have to take Sidney Jones.

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FIFY

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If Sidney ever really recovers then yes.

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Learn the ropes? We'll need someone to START in place of Ellerbe by week 2 when he's injured!

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He'll be playing by October. I urge everybody to go watch his tape, then go watch Marcus Peters.

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If we take Reuben at number 11 the organization better make damn sure they have the people in place to keep to keep him focused. I have already seen this story before in Dallas with what's happened to Gregory and Lawerence.

All the talent in the world won't matter if you can't pass a simple drug test.

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He never failed a drug test. He had a diluted sample. BIG difference.

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He may not have failed a drug test in your eyes but in the eyes of the NFL this is essentially a failed test. That's why any player that tests positive for a diluted sample is automatically enrolled in the NFL drug program.

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True. But in the eyes of those that matter (franchise decision makers) there is a difference. If it was caused by over-hydration, which is a very real possibility, then there should be no reason why he would fail more tests that would result in a three game suspension.

The players you named had real issues.

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That's a big if (with regards to over-hydration). To be perfectly honest, if Reuben wasn't trying to hide anything he could clear it up easily by just submitting to a bloodtest. I seriously doubt he does that though because it could reveal other substances that could be banned. So given that, I would think long an hard about whether you can afford to take him at 11. Now if you want to take a chance on him at 32 or later I'm ok with that.

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The league is about to stop testing for weed anyway, as they should.

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Under NFL CBA rules you cannot clear things up with a blood test. They actually discussed that on NFL radio the other day saying if it was allowed it could surely get past the issue. The problem isn't being in the program for Foster, it is how the test can affect his draft status. Being in the program really doesn't matter if you don't use and any diluted sample could simply trigger another test the next day which could clear things up.

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I agree.

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If Reuben decided to initiate the blood test at an independent lab and released the results to the press he could do that. You have to remember, he hasn't been drafted yet so technically he isn't bound by CBA rules. While it can't "officially" be used to clear the result from his diluted sample I'm pretty sure every team would ignore the urine test result at that point.

At any rate, all I'm saying is if the bread smells funny and you eat the sandwich anyway don't blame the sandwhich that it made you sick when you could smell something was funny before you took that first bite.