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K Major 04-28-2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 747100)
Options I like for the Second Round:

QB David Webb will probably go in the second because of the way this crazy ass draft is going...

So true ... that Trubisky pick (Bears) kind of threw me off last night. Pick #2? Wow, wow and wow.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 11:02 AM

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Haven't Mayock and the others been saying that all the QBs were a 2nd round talent at best?

jeanpierre 04-28-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 747117)
So true ... that Trubisky pick (Bears) kind of threw me off last night. Pick #2? Wow, wow and wow.

Trubisky pick was the equivalent of a No. 16 seed knocking off a No. 1 seed in the NCAA 64-team tourney, it just blew every bracket, mock apart last night...

Payton and staff were in a state of disbelief that Lattimore was there at No. 11 after they had him with an average rating of No. 4 overall...

The bad thing about when that happens is now you really have to adjust your draft strategy on the fly...

Ironic isn't it that rookie GM John Lynch looked like the grizzled veteran last night and got the 49ers the exact player they wanted, an add'l third round pick and a first round pick next year when that draft class is expected to be a special, rare quarterback class...

So far it looks like 49ers CEO Jed York got lucky and let the adult handle things in the draft...

jeanpierre 04-28-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 747120)
Haven't Mayock and the others been saying that all the QBs were a 2nd round talent at best?

Actually Mitchell Trubiskey had been rated a mid round pick (No. 10 ~ No. 22)...

Deshaun Watson and Deshone Kizer were among the more divisive among scouts with a wide variance of grades, some as late as the third round...

Personally, I think Watson benefited from having some great receivers who bailed him out as I just don't think he was properly schooled in read progression -

he just looked like he really didn't have a plan and would just chuck it out there...

I actually expected Davis Webb to sneak into the back of the first round the way things were going...

Webb very much reminds me of our very own Drew Brees, in that mould, and I wouldn't be surprised if Payton feels compelled to reach for him...

If we pick and Malik McDowell AND Chidobe Awuzie are still there at No. 42, that'd be a real tough call...

McDowell has top five talent, is a virtual clone of Cam Jordan, and I'm not sold on this whole cloud of bad attitude thing...

Malik McDowell just needs some trusted coaching and guidance and we've got the defensive coaches and vets to do it...

Personally, I like Awuzie as much, if not more, than Lattimore and wouldn't have a problem taking Chidobe either...

And yes, even though I really, really felt we already have two terrific CBs already on the roster...

Danno 04-28-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 747078)
Seriously, all the good DEs are already off the board? I don't think so.

My guess is that we have several remaining DE's with the same grade that we can get at 42 or even later. But you aren't gonna get the best OT in the draft at 42.

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 12:57 PM

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jeanpierre 04-28-2017 01:18 PM

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Wow, John Fox has fallen a long way...


|Mitch| 04-28-2017 01:21 PM

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Talk about a red flag for Mr. Fox; may need to start looking into other employment opportunities

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 01:24 PM

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|Mitch| 04-28-2017 01:25 PM

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CheramieIII 04-28-2017 02:29 PM

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Talk of us possibly drafting Kizer, Webb, Kaaya of the kid out of Pittsburgh at #42.

According to ESPN's Mike Triplett, quarterback is "in play" for the Saints on Day 2 of the draft.
While Triplett would like to see New Orleans land Tennessee's Joshua Dobbs if he falls to the third round, Miami’s Brad Kaaya, Notre Dame's DeShone Kizer, Pittsburgh’s Nathan Peterman and Cal’s Davis Webb will all be options to consider at No. 42. The Packers are reportedly interested in Kizer at No. 33, but that could be a smokescreen. The Saints are probably wise to start thinking about life after Drew Brees.

CheramieIII 04-28-2017 02:35 PM

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Speaking on Friday, Saints coach Sean Payton refused to rule out a trade for Patriots CB Malcolm Butler or Rams CB Trumaine Johnson.
This comes less than 24 hours after the Saints used their No. 11 pick on Marshon Lattimore. Acquiring Butler seemed inevitable for New Orleans at one point, but talks have broken down and Butler hurt his chances of being traded by waiting too long to sign his restricted free agent tender. If the Saints were going to land a top-flight corner via trade, it would have happened by now.
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Source: EPSN.com

voodooido 04-28-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 747152)
My guess is that we have several remaining DE's with the same grade that we can get at 42 or even later. But you aren't gonna get the best OT in the draft at 42.

Willis is a stud and is still on the board. Also would not mind SS-Baker or adding another CB in King.

rezburna 04-28-2017 02:49 PM

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I just read an article about Reuben Foster. The 49ers called and he told them that the Saints were taking him. That was really the move. We really almost pulled it off. I hate the 49ers. That would have been the perfect night. Marshon Lattimore and Reuben Foster? SMH...

foreverfan 04-28-2017 02:54 PM

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brees84 04-28-2017 03:34 PM

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Thank you KC!

Please, no QBs tonight!

lee909 04-28-2017 04:10 PM

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Thank you KC

Really suprised at that and would have been mad at that pick

Lord_Saint83 04-28-2017 05:04 PM

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I would of thrown the remote at the tv if they spent that on mahomes

jeanpierre 04-28-2017 05:04 PM

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Thank you Kansas City!!! Will have to show some love and wear my Stroud's Chicken T-Shirt soon!!!

nola_swammi 04-28-2017 06:22 PM

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Fingers cross on Obi and Samuel

lee909 04-28-2017 06:22 PM

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Highest rated still on board


Cook, Dalvin RB 5'10" 210 Florida St.
McDowell, Malik DT 6'6" 295 Michigan St.
Lamp, Forrest OG 6'4" 309 Western Kentucky
Brantley, Caleb DT 6'3" 307 Florida
Robinson, Cam OT 6'6" 322 Alabama
Mixon, Joe RB 6'1" 226 Oklahoma
Williams, Tim OLB 6'3" 244 Alabama
Cunningham, Zach LB 6'3" 234 Vanderbilt
Kamara, Alvin RB 5'10" 214 Tennessee
Everett, Gerald TE 6'3" 239 South Alabama
Baker, Budda S 5'10" 195 Washington
Smith-Schuster, JuJu WR 6'1" 215 USC
Jones, Josh S 6'1" 220 N.C. State
Bowser, Tyus OLB 6'3" 247 Houston
Elflein, Pat C 6'3" 303 Ohio St.
Maye, Marcus S 6'0" 210 Florida
Jones, Sidney CB 6'0" 186 Washington
Willis, Jordan OLB 6'4" 255 Kansas St.
Shaheen, Adam TE 6'6" 278 Ashland 5.8
Anderson, Ryan OLB 6'2" 253 Alabama 5.8
Wormley, Chris DE 6'5" 298 Michigan 5.8
Williams, Marcus S 6'1" 202 Utah
Evans, Justin S 6'0" 199 Texas A&M
Awuzie, Chidobe CB 6'0" 202 Colorado
Samuel, Curtis WR 5'11" 196 Ohio St.
Douglas, Rasul CB 6'2" 209 West Virginia
Dawkins, Dion OG 6'4" 314 Temple
Westbrook, Dede WR 6'0" 178 Oklahoma
Anzalone, Alex LB 6'3" 241 Florida
Ogunjobi, Larry DT 6'3" 305 North Carolina Charlotte
Feeney, Dan OG 6'4" 305 Indiana
Stewart, ArDarius WR 5'11" 204 Alabama
Wilson, Quincy CB 6'1" 211 Florida
Kizer, DeShone QB 6'4" 233 Notre Dame
Johnson, Dorian OG 6'5" 300 Pittsburgh
Kupp, Cooper WR 6'2" 204 Eastern Washington
Melifonwu, Obi S 6'4" 224 Connecticut
Jones, Zay WR 6'2" 201 East Carolina
Foreman, D'Onta RB 6'0" 233 Texas
Moreau, Fabian CB 6'0" 206 UCLA
Tabor, Teez CB 6'0" 199 Florida
Taylor, Taywan WR 5'11" 203 Western Kentucky

SmashMouth 04-28-2017 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 747285)
Highest rated still on board


Cook, Dalvin RB 5'10" 210 Florida St.
McDowell, Malik DT 6'6" 295 Michigan St.
Lamp, Forrest OG 6'4" 309 Western Kentucky
Brantley, Caleb DT 6'3" 307 Florida
Robinson, Cam OT 6'6" 322 Alabama
Mixon, Joe RB 6'1" 226 Oklahoma
Williams, Tim OLB 6'3" 244 Alabama
Cunningham, Zach LB 6'3" 234 Vanderbilt
Kamara, Alvin RB 5'10" 214 Tennessee
Everett, Gerald TE 6'3" 239 South Alabama
Baker, Budda S 5'10" 195 Washington
Smith-Schuster, JuJu WR 6'1" 215 USC
Jones, Josh S 6'1" 220 N.C. State
Bowser, Tyus OLB 6'3" 247 Houston
Elflein, Pat C 6'3" 303 Ohio St.
Maye, Marcus S 6'0" 210 Florida
Jones, Sidney CB 6'0" 186 Washington
Willis, Jordan OLB 6'4" 255 Kansas St.
Shaheen, Adam TE 6'6" 278 Ashland 5.8
Anderson, Ryan OLB 6'2" 253 Alabama 5.8
Wormley, Chris DE 6'5" 298 Michigan 5.8
Williams, Marcus S 6'1" 202 Utah
Evans, Justin S 6'0" 199 Texas A&M
Awuzie, Chidobe CB 6'0" 202 Colorado
Samuel, Curtis WR 5'11" 196 Ohio St.
Douglas, Rasul CB 6'2" 209 West Virginia
Dawkins, Dion OG 6'4" 314 Temple
Westbrook, Dede WR 6'0" 178 Oklahoma
Anzalone, Alex LB 6'3" 241 Florida
Ogunjobi, Larry DT 6'3" 305 North Carolina Charlotte
Feeney, Dan OG 6'4" 305 Indiana
Stewart, ArDarius WR 5'11" 204 Alabama
Wilson, Quincy CB 6'1" 211 Florida
Kizer, DeShone QB 6'4" 233 Notre Dame
Johnson, Dorian OG 6'5" 300 Pittsburgh
Kupp, Cooper WR 6'2" 204 Eastern Washington
Melifonwu, Obi S 6'4" 224 Connecticut
Jones, Zay WR 6'2" 201 East Carolina
Foreman, D'Onta RB 6'0" 233 Texas
Moreau, Fabian CB 6'0" 206 UCLA
Tabor, Teez CB 6'0" 199 Florida
Taylor, Taywan WR 5'11" 203 Western Kentucky

No LSU... Should be good!

RaginCajun83 04-28-2017 07:08 PM

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Well I was liking the Saints draft. Another safety? Guess they gonna blitz DBs all game long

lee909 04-28-2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 747302)
No LSU... Should be good!

Didn't look at anything
Just copied the top ranked players

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 747393)
Well I was liking the Saints draft. Another safety? Guess they gonna blitz DBs all game long

Center Fielder; Will allow Bell and Vaccaro to play closer to the line of scrimmage, which is more a natural fit for them.

Danno 04-28-2017 08:04 PM

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We keep picking players that were rated much higher than where they were picked.
That's how you build a stud roster over time.
Never reach for a position. The NFL is loaded with simply adequate players at every position.

The draft is about finding that exceptional player, not just some dude that plays at a position of need.

RaginCajun83 04-28-2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 747511)
Center Fielder; Will allow Bell and Vaccaro to play closer to the line of scrimmage, which is more a natural fit for them.

So he's going to take Byrd's place at the corner of Podryus and Lasalle?

|Mitch| 04-28-2017 08:56 PM

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Rugby Saint II 04-28-2017 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 747526)
We keep picking players that were rated much higher than where they were picked.
That's how you build a stud roster over time.
Never reach for a position. The NFL is loaded with simply adequate players at every position.

The draft is about finding that exceptional player, not just some dude that plays at a position of need.

Quote of the day right there!:biggun:

Rugby Saint II 04-28-2017 09:05 PM

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Wow! Six picks in two days! That's twice as many as normal. This is definitely an exciting draft. :bng:

QBREES9 04-28-2017 09:11 PM

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Were up again! RD3 #76 pick

QBREES9 04-28-2017 09:12 PM

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the Saint slect LB Alex Anzalone FLA

foreverfan 04-28-2017 09:24 PM

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Danno 04-28-2017 10:31 PM

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Good grief, enough of the tittie posts

WillSaints81 04-29-2017 09:22 AM

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What I need to do is continue my research on combines but I will actually now start breaking down the positional players. In terms of rounds. So I ca summarize our picks and match them up.

WillSaints81 04-29-2017 11:01 AM

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I will be posting no more clips for combines. Finishing where I left off, CB was next

40 time
Jalen Myrick, Minnesota 4.28
Myrick the only CB with a 40 time under 4.30
Myrick is still on the board also as he is ranked 16th among CBs.

Bench reps
Brendon Langley of Lamar had 22 reps
Jack Tocho of NCSU had 21
Jeremy Clark of Michigan had 20
Langley was drafted by Denver in the third. Clark is still on the board and Tocho appears to go undrafted.

Cone
Brian Allen, Utah 6.64
Gareon Conley, OSU 6.68
Howard Wilson, Hou 6.68
These were the only three with times of under 6.70
Conley was drafted in first by Oakland. Allen and Wilson are still on the board.

Shuttle
Kevin King, Was was only player under 3.90 with a 3.89
Second was Howard Wilson with 3.94, the only other player under 4.00
King was drafted by Green Bay.

Vertical
Ahkello Witherspoon, Colorado only one with 40+ inches, 40.50, ahead of King and Lattimore(1 and 2 inches back, respectively)
Witherspoon was drafted by SF in round 2.

Broad
Fabian Moreau, UCLA, 135
Lattimore, OSU, 132
Chidobe Awuzie, Col, 132
Shaquill Griffin, UCF 132

Morrow was drafted round 3 by Washington, Awuzie round 2 by Dallas, and Griffin in round 3 by Seattle.

So there's so much variety here let's stack up stats
Jalen Myrick
13 reps(15th)...below average
7.06 cone(17th).....over .40 behind the top three(average)
4.22 shuttle(11th)..under .30 behind second place(average)
37.50 vertical(6th)..3 inches behind first place(above average)
123 broad(11th).....12 inches behind first(average)
Myrick stands out in the 40 time and verticaljump. His bench reps show why he is so quick. He's small, and lacks NFL muscle, likely will be a injury prone player.

Langley
4.43 40 time(21st), .15 behind first place(average)
7.06 cone(17th)....tied with Myrick(average)
4.21 shuttle(10th), .1 ahead of Myrick(average)
35.50 vertical(10th), 4 inches behind first(above average), and 2 behind Myrick
123 broad(11th), tied with Myrick and one other person.
Langley is only behind Myrick in speed and vertical but right there with him in everything but where he leads him most, in bench reps.

1.Langley
2.Myrick

Tocho
4.54 40 time(65th), .22 behind Langley(below average)
Cone N/A
Shuttle N/A
35 vertical(13th), 5.5 behind leader, 2.5 behind Myrick, .5 behind Langley
124 broad(9th), one ahead of Langley and Myrick, 11 behind leader.
Compared to Langley, he trails in the 40 time by a bit, which even hurts him against Myrick, but he's right there in the vertical and broad with them. Myrick's 2.5 might have some advantage, but the bench reps is where he beats Myrick.

1.Langley
2.Tocho
3.Myrick

Clark
4.59 40 time(80th), .27 behind Langley, .5 behind Tocho
N/A everywhere else
His lack of participation will affect him. He's a wild card. Ranked last

Allen
4.48 40 time(38th), .6 behind Langley(average)
15 reps(11th), 2 ahead of Myrick
4.34 shuttle(16th), .14 behind Langley(below average)
34.50 vertical(16th), .50 behind Tocho(average-above average)
116 broad(27th), 8 behind Tocho(below average)
He's right there in the 40 time with Langley, but is with Myrick in the reps, lacks by .14 in cone, slightly behind Langley in vertical, and behind him by 7 in broad. His reps being too close to Myrick and trailing him everywhere else puts him second to last.

1.Langley
2.Tocho
3.Myrick
4.Allen
5.Clark

I will do the rest later.

WillSaints81 04-29-2017 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 746975)
I am just one of those people that think you always take the best talent available and that will help you much more than drafting for need. I liked what we did with our first two picks. No way to know if either will pan out, but they were good picks based off of where we were at and the situations surrounding all of that. I love offensive lineman. People on here have complained about how the Cowboys didn't get the sexy picks over the years but built their oline. Now we are doing the same and people are complaining. Being able to control the clock is also helpful to your D while they build to get better. I like these picks. If lattimore is over the hammies then man that kid looks like he could be really good

And look- at least we didn't draft a guy we never heard of out of the Nigerian semi-pro league.

Actually we did.

WillSaints81 04-29-2017 06:44 PM

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I posted that stuff in wrong thread.

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