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Who is this guy? He hasn't played in two of the last 3 seasons? Ok....

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 748175)

Haha damn!! I...i....i...i would have got it away with it too, if it wasn't for that meddling edit button!!

Rood one Raggy Rizzle.

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 748141)

Here is my thought, we currently have 6 rb's that were either on the team last year, signed in the offseason or drafted. So who is the odd man out?

Let's pick this apart one at a time. The answer to the first question is Murphy and Cadet. The Joker RB role was upgraded with the pick.

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MIA had his first 1000 yard season but he stays injured.

Ingram played 16 games last season. The only injury report was a concussion and a toe after the Panther's game in November. He played the next week against the Lions. So how exactly is that "staying injured"?

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Cadet just resigned

A one year vet minimum contract with $80K in guaranteed money. I'm sure Loomis can find that kind of change in his couch if Cadet needed to be cut.

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and Lassco is only in his 2nd year.

Lasco's contract is worth less than Cadet's. Also I believe that Lasco is still eligible for the practice squad.

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AP just signed a 2 yr deal

No. AP signed a one year deal and a one year team option that has no guaranteed money. If it doesn't work out AP can be let go next offseason and cost the team exactly $0 additional dollars.

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and now we drafted a top 4 back in the draft.

A top 4 back with a 2nd round grade, in the 3rd round, with the purpose of upgrading Cadet.

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Could MIA be a possible trade option? Trade him aft r his best season to get the max?

Not smart at all. BTW I see what you did there with MIA. Funny. Ingram is a productive back in the Saints offense at very reasonable contract numbers ($4 million/year). As you pointed out, the guy just had his best season.

I don't see why anyone would think it smart to get rid of your most productive back and leave an old geezer and a rookie in his place.

As Ingram himself pointed out, RBs sharing the carries is a Payton Saints' offensive hallmark. So having 4,5, or even 6 backs isn't the least bit out of the ordinary.

Everyone should read it for what it is: Cadet isn't Sproles or Bush. Kamara might be. The Joker is the kid's slot to take. Nothing more. Nothing less.

SFIAH

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 748224)

Let's pick this apart one at a time. The answer to the first question is Murphy and Cadet. The Joker RB role was upgraded with the pick.

Ingram played 16 games last season. The only injury report was a concussion and a toe after the Panther's game in November. He played the next week against the Lions. So how exactly is that "staying injured"?

A one year vet minimum contract with $80K in guaranteed money. I'm sure Loomis can find that kind of change in his couch if Cadet needed to be cut.

Lasco's contract is worth less than Cadet's. Also I believe that Lasco is still eligible for the practice squad.

No. AP signed a one year deal and a one year team option that has no guaranteed money. If it doesn't work out AP can be let go next offseason and cost the team exactly $0 additional dollars.

A top 4 back with a 2nd round grade, in the 3rd round, with the purpose of upgrading Cadet.

Not smart at all. BTW I see what you did there with MIA. Funny. Ingram is a productive back in the Saints offense at very reasonable contract numbers ($4 million/year). As you pointed out, the guy just had his best season.

I don't see why anyone would think it smart to get rid of your most productive back and leave an old geezer and a rookie in his place.

As Ingram himself pointed out, RBs sharing the carries is a Payton Saints' offensive hallmark. So having 4,5, or even 6 backs isn't the least bit out of the ordinary.

Everyone should read it for what it is: Cadet isn't Sproles or Bush. Kamara might be. The Joker is the kid's slot to take. Nothing more. Nothing less.

SFIAH

Hallelujah! Amen! Preach it, Brother!

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 748077)

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Kamara is no joke. He could seriously be a major contributor like a James White and take over games if given enough touches. He did it in college against some decent teams.

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I think that Lasco is safe simply because he has such a high value in ST plays.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 748073)

Don't sleep on Kamara. If you follow Mayock, he had him going to the Packers in Rd #1. 39 inch vertical, runs very good routes and solid vision. In a way, reminds me of "Can't guard Mike Thomas" selection from last year. Played for a school that didn't fully use his talents 100%. Untapped potential and value. Could end up as a stronger, faster version of the great Pierre Thomas.

I think Sean Payton has a solid plan for him in this offense.

Bump ...

Had to bring this thread back to life. I respect Mayock's scouting opinion and he hit this one on the head.