Jimmy Graham return in 2018?

Halo · 10-25-2017, 05:57 PM

Personally think we "went to the well" too often when JG was here. That's why he was getting hurt a lot. We would trow to him even when he was playing hurt. Since we traded him, I feel like we have developed a more balanced offense - same kind of offense that brought us to the big show in 2009/2010 season.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Re-signing Graham won't make any sense if Brees leaves.

Which is why it would make sense. Brees isn't going anywhere for years. He just told Jimmy Johnson that (once again) on the FOX pregame show. He said they'll get a deal don't and he plans to remain a Saint for the rest of his career and he plans to play several more years.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

It chapped mine, and I'm pretty easy-going...mostly...about such things, and I generally fall in on the side of the players because they're usually the underdogs going up against management.

Still, what he said, and how he said it, was in bad taste or bad form - perhaps a bit too passive-aggressive for my taste. That's really all. I'm not willing to give him a pass on it. I'm not ready to throw him out with the bath water, but no pass here. He could apologize and I'd be happy...

How do you know how he said it? Trying to say something in 140 or less characters is a horrible means of understandable interaction. Right? Especially when it was directed at an individual but accidentally posted as a public tweet.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

* was not the same with him and team after the prolonged WR/TEcontract issue
* hard to view 'congrats on getting out of there' as anything other than malicious towards 'there'
* SP has a long memory, and certainly didn't forget the sideline altercation with Graham after the two pre-season dunks

Jimmy Graham flagged twice for goal-post dunks - NFL.com

In your mind. How do you know what those that matter think? You don't is the only answer.

saintfan · 10-25-2017, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How do you know how he said it? Trying to say something in 140 or less characters is a horrible means of understandable interaction. Right? Especially when it was directed at an individual but accidentally posted as a public tweet.

Oh I don't know - I'm just going on what I heard (or read), that's all. I'm not a Jimmy hater.

BUT

Maybe he should have used better judgement, assuming he wasn't being snarky. Personally, I think he was being snarky, but that's just my own opinion.

WhoDat!656 · 10-25-2017, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

say what you want... but Sean does have a history of bringing in washed up TE's past their prime... JEREMY SHOCKY.

But also keep this into perspective. Players excell in the Saints system because they fit it. When players leave they it generally doesn't turn out as well for them. Their best years usually end up the ones they spent with us. The one WR I can't think of right was good with us left and was a complete bus then comes back and is good again.

Was that Robert Meachem?

WillMacKenzie · 10-25-2017, 06:32 PM

Graham was good while it lasted, but it's over now.

Plus once teams learned how to take him away, Brees was lost.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Oh I don't know - I'm just going on what I heard (or read), that's all. I'm not a Jimmy hater.

BUT

Maybe he should have used better judgement, assuming he wasn't being snarky. Personally, I think he was being snarky, but that's just my own opinion.

He deleted it immediately. If he was wanting to be snarky he would have left it out there, right? It was supposed to be private to Hicks and he screwed up.

saintfan · 10-25-2017, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He deleted it immediately. If he was wanting to be snarky he would have left it out there, right? It was supposed to be private to Hicks and he screwed up.

See, to me, if he deleted it immediately it means he probably knew it was snarky when he posted it and tried to take it back.

Doesn't matter if it was private or broadcast nationwide. He said it.

Maybe he regretted it - maybe not. I'll never know because he didn't elaborate publicly.

He sure did seem awfully happy to get out of town tho...

Seer1 · 10-25-2017, 08:41 PM

Nooooooooooo!!! I know I already said that, but just wanted to make sure I'm heard. That weird bromance between Drew and him just ain't good for the rest of the team. Too many good hands out there right now to be ignored.

10-25-2017, 05:57 PM	#71
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,607 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Personally think we "went to the well" too often when JG was here. That's why he was getting hurt a lot. We would trow to him even when he was playing hurt. Since we traded him, I feel like we have developed a more balanced offense - same kind of offense that brought us to the big show in 2009/2010 season. WillMacKenzie likes this.

10-25-2017, 05:59 PM	#72
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Re-signing Graham won't make any sense if Brees leaves. Which is why it would make sense. Brees isn't going anywhere for years. He just told Jimmy Johnson that (once again) on the FOX pregame show. He said they'll get a deal don't and he plans to remain a Saint for the rest of his career and he plans to play several more years.

10-25-2017, 06:02 PM	#73
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by saintfan It chapped mine, and I'm pretty easy-going...mostly...about such things, and I generally fall in on the side of the players because they're usually the underdogs going up against management. Still, what he said, and how he said it, was in bad taste or bad form - perhaps a bit too passive-aggressive for my taste. That's really all. I'm not willing to give him a pass on it. I'm not ready to throw him out with the bath water, but no pass here. He could apologize and I'd be happy... How do you know how he said it? Trying to say something in 140 or less characters is a horrible means of understandable interaction. Right? Especially when it was directed at an individual but accidentally posted as a public tweet.

10-25-2017, 06:04 PM	#74
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by ScottF * was not the same with him and team after the prolonged WR/TEcontract issue * hard to view 'congrats on getting out of there' as anything other than malicious towards 'there' * SP has a long memory, and certainly didn't forget the sideline altercation with Graham after the two pre-season dunks Jimmy Graham flagged twice for goal-post dunks - NFL.com In your mind. How do you know what those that matter think? You don't is the only answer.

10-25-2017, 06:07 PM	#75
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How do you know how he said it? Trying to say something in 140 or less characters is a horrible means of understandable interaction. Right? Especially when it was directed at an individual but accidentally posted as a public tweet. Oh I don't know - I'm just going on what I heard (or read), that's all. I'm not a Jimmy hater. BUT Maybe he should have used better judgement, assuming he wasn't being snarky. Personally, I think he was being snarky, but that's just my own opinion.

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

10-25-2017, 06:16 PM	#76
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,047	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by Euphoria say what you want... but Sean does have a history of bringing in washed up TE's past their prime... JEREMY SHOCKY. But also keep this into perspective. Players excell in the Saints system because they fit it. When players leave they it generally doesn't turn out as well for them. Their best years usually end up the ones they spent with us. The one WR I can't think of right was good with us left and was a complete bus then comes back and is good again. Was that Robert Meachem? Halo, Utah_Saint and BusDriver like this.

10-25-2017, 06:32 PM	#77
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Graham was good while it lasted, but it's over now. Plus once teams learned how to take him away, Brees was lost.

10-25-2017, 06:41 PM	#78
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by saintfan Oh I don't know - I'm just going on what I heard (or read), that's all. I'm not a Jimmy hater. BUT Maybe he should have used better judgement, assuming he wasn't being snarky. Personally, I think he was being snarky, but that's just my own opinion. He deleted it immediately. If he was wanting to be snarky he would have left it out there, right? It was supposed to be private to Hicks and he screwed up.

10-25-2017, 06:47 PM	#79
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He deleted it immediately. If he was wanting to be snarky he would have left it out there, right? It was supposed to be private to Hicks and he screwed up. See, to me, if he deleted it immediately it means he probably knew it was snarky when he posted it and tried to take it back. Doesn't matter if it was private or broadcast nationwide. He said it. Maybe he regretted it - maybe not. I'll never know because he didn't elaborate publicly. He sure did seem awfully happy to get out of town tho... ScottF likes this.

10-25-2017, 08:41 PM	#80
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Nooooooooooo!!! I know I already said that, but just wanted to make sure I'm heard. That weird bromance between Drew and him just ain't good for the rest of the team. Too many good hands out there right now to be ignored.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/82833-jimmy-graham-return-2018-a.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
Jimmy Graham return in 2018? \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	05-22-2017 10:13 PM	2
Jimmy Graham return in 2018?	This thread	Refback	05-22-2017 06:23 PM	3
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	05-22-2017 06:13 PM	22