Jimmy Graham return in 2018?

ScottF · 10-25-2017, 12:38 PM

Other than he played here before, why would we be in the mix to acquire a 30 year old with declining skills at a position where we have three decent players?

Throw in bad blood, and I'm guessing NO

not that I'm saying "NFL World" isn't a reliable site

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Other than he played here before, why would we be in the mix to acquire a 30 year old with declining skills at a position where we have three decent players?

Throw in bad blood, and I'm guessing NO

not that I'm saying "NFL World" isn't a reliable site

Where is the bad blood? From everything I have read he would love to be back with the Saints and he is still very, very tight with Brees.

saintfan · 10-25-2017, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Where is the bad blood? From everything I have read he would love to be back with the Saints and he is still very, very tight with Brees.

He said some things on his way out that rubbed a lot of "us" the wrong way.

Now, I don't think Sean and Drew were as bothered as some of us were about his comments. Business is business after all.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

He said some things on his way out that rubbed a lot of "us" the wrong way.

Now, I don't think Sean and Drew were as bothered as some of us were about his comments. Business is business after all.

That's what I meant. It doesn't matter what fans think, he had always remained on good terms with both Brees and Payton. And those things he said weren't that big of a deal. Yes, he congratulated a couple of former teammates for signing good free agent deals elsewhere. That's pretty common practice between friends.

I wouldn't mind him being back as another weapon if he learned anything about blocking while he was abroad.

dizzle88 · 10-25-2017, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's what I meant. It doesn't matter what fans think, he had always remained on good terms with both Brees and Payton. And those things he said weren't that big of a deal. Yes, he congratulated a couple of former teammates for signing good free agent deals elsewhere. That's pretty common practice between friends.

I wouldn't mind him being back as another weapon if he learned anything about blocking while he was abroad.

His tweet to Akiem Hicks said " So blessed you got out of there," Jeff Duncan reported it.

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

His tweet to Akiem Hicks said " So blessed you got out of there," Jeff Duncan reported it.

That was part of it. It also said, "Time to go shine big dog. All the best. Good luck."

It was meant to be a direct message and was deleted right away. Hicks had become another one of those square pegs in a round hole. He was blessed to get traded to a better fit.

But, it chapped the ass of some fans. Nothing that would burn any bridge, for certain.

saintfan · 10-25-2017, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That was part of it. It also said, "Time to go shine big dog. All the best. Good luck."

It was meant to be a direct message and was deleted right away. Hicks had become another one of those square pegs in a round hole. He was blessed to get traded to a better fit.

But, it chapped the ass of some fans. Nothing that would burn any bridge, for certain.

It chapped mine, and I'm pretty easy-going...mostly...about such things, and I generally fall in on the side of the players because they're usually the underdogs going up against management.

Still, what he said, and how he said it, was in bad taste or bad form - perhaps a bit too passive-aggressive for my taste. That's really all. I'm not willing to give him a pass on it. I'm not ready to throw him out with the bath water, but no pass here. He could apologize and I'd be happy...

|Mitch| · 10-25-2017, 01:24 PM

I just remember him saying in one of his press conferences; that as soon as Drew retired that he would quit because he didn't want anyone else throwing to him...

He was traded shortly thereafter; then he had to learn how to block

ScottF · 10-25-2017, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Where is the bad blood? From everything I have read he would love to be back with the Saints and he is still very, very tight with Brees.

* was not the same with him and team after the prolonged WR/TEcontract issue
* hard to view 'congrats on getting out of there' as anything other than malicious towards 'there'
* SP has a long memory, and certainly didn't forget the sideline altercation with Graham after the two pre-season dunks

Jimmy Graham flagged twice for goal-post dunks - NFL.com

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2017, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

* was not the same with him and team after the prolonged WR/TEcontract issue
* hard to view 'congrats on getting out of there' as anything other than malicious towards 'there'
* SP has a long memory, and certainly didn't forget the sideline altercation with Graham after the two pre-season dunks

Jimmy Graham flagged twice for goal-post dunks - NFL.com

In your mind. How do you know what those that matter think? You don't is the only answer.

10-25-2017, 12:38 PM	#1
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Other than he played here before, why would we be in the mix to acquire a 30 year old with declining skills at a position where we have three decent players? Throw in bad blood, and I'm guessing NO not that I'm saying "NFL World" isn't a reliable site

10-25-2017, 01:19 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by ScottF Other than he played here before, why would we be in the mix to acquire a 30 year old with declining skills at a position where we have three decent players? Throw in bad blood, and I'm guessing NO not that I'm saying "NFL World" isn't a reliable site Where is the bad blood? From everything I have read he would love to be back with the Saints and he is still very, very tight with Brees.

10-25-2017, 01:20 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Where is the bad blood? From everything I have read he would love to be back with the Saints and he is still very, very tight with Brees. He said some things on his way out that rubbed a lot of "us" the wrong way. Now, I don't think Sean and Drew were as bothered as some of us were about his comments. Business is business after all.

10-25-2017, 01:24 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by saintfan He said some things on his way out that rubbed a lot of "us" the wrong way. Now, I don't think Sean and Drew were as bothered as some of us were about his comments. Business is business after all. That's what I meant. It doesn't matter what fans think, he had always remained on good terms with both Brees and Payton. And those things he said weren't that big of a deal. Yes, he congratulated a couple of former teammates for signing good free agent deals elsewhere. That's pretty common practice between friends. I wouldn't mind him being back as another weapon if he learned anything about blocking while he was abroad.

10-25-2017, 01:38 PM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's what I meant. It doesn't matter what fans think, he had always remained on good terms with both Brees and Payton. And those things he said weren't that big of a deal. Yes, he congratulated a couple of former teammates for signing good free agent deals elsewhere. That's pretty common practice between friends. I wouldn't mind him being back as another weapon if he learned anything about blocking while he was abroad. His tweet to Akiem Hicks said " So blessed you got out of there," Jeff Duncan reported it.

10-25-2017, 01:45 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by dizzle88 His tweet to Akiem Hicks said " So blessed you got out of there," Jeff Duncan reported it. That was part of it. It also said, "Time to go shine big dog. All the best. Good luck." It was meant to be a direct message and was deleted right away. Hicks had become another one of those square pegs in a round hole. He was blessed to get traded to a better fit. But, it chapped the ass of some fans. Nothing that would burn any bridge, for certain.

10-25-2017, 03:12 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That was part of it. It also said, "Time to go shine big dog. All the best. Good luck." It was meant to be a direct message and was deleted right away. Hicks had become another one of those square pegs in a round hole. He was blessed to get traded to a better fit. But, it chapped the ass of some fans. Nothing that would burn any bridge, for certain. It chapped mine, and I'm pretty easy-going...mostly...about such things, and I generally fall in on the side of the players because they're usually the underdogs going up against management. Still, what he said, and how he said it, was in bad taste or bad form - perhaps a bit too passive-aggressive for my taste. That's really all. I'm not willing to give him a pass on it. I'm not ready to throw him out with the bath water, but no pass here. He could apologize and I'd be happy...

10-25-2017, 01:24 PM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? I just remember him saying in one of his press conferences; that as soon as Drew retired that he would quit because he didn't want anyone else throwing to him... He was traded shortly thereafter; then he had to learn how to block

10-25-2017, 03:41 PM	#9
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Where is the bad blood? From everything I have read he would love to be back with the Saints and he is still very, very tight with Brees. * was not the same with him and team after the prolonged WR/TEcontract issue * hard to view 'congrats on getting out of there' as anything other than malicious towards 'there' * SP has a long memory, and certainly didn't forget the sideline altercation with Graham after the two pre-season dunks Jimmy Graham flagged twice for goal-post dunks - NFL.com saintfan and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Jimmy Graham return in 2018? Originally Posted by ScottF * was not the same with him and team after the prolonged WR/TEcontract issue * hard to view 'congrats on getting out of there' as anything other than malicious towards 'there' * SP has a long memory, and certainly didn't forget the sideline altercation with Graham after the two pre-season dunks Jimmy Graham flagged twice for goal-post dunks - NFL.com In your mind. How do you know what those that matter think? You don't is the only answer.

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