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AsylumGuido 05-31-2017 08:14 PM
Re: Who will emerge in Saints' logjam of talented cornerbacks?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 751360)
Crawley had a chance to win the NY game for us, he was in perfect position and made an awful attempt, all he had to do was knock it down. Not a fan personally.
Ever heard of getting over it? Dwelling on the negative incident in the past can have bad consequences one's ongoing health ... mentally and physically.

Look ahead! Don't worry! Be happy! :clown:

jeanpierre 05-31-2017 10:16 PM
Re: Who will emerge in Saints' logjam of talented cornerbacks?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 751360)
Crawley had a chance to win the NY game for us, he was in perfect position and made an awful attempt, all he had to do was knock it down. Not a fan personally.
Dizz, remind us again where he was drafted and how many games he had started in the NFL at that point?

He was an absolute theft for us in the UDFA Rookie Market; and, because of injuries, he got invaluable playing time...

And, he got better! Know it's frustrating when you see those plays, I feel ya, but he was a rookie man, in his second game, which he hadn't even started...

Not banging on you, but asking for some perspective with the lad...

AsylumGuido 06-01-2017 06:50 AM
Re: Who will emerge in Saints' logjam of talented cornerbacks?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 751383)
Dizz, remind us again where he was drafted and how many games he had started in the NFL at that point?

He was an absolute theft for us in the UDFA Rookie Market; and, because of injuries, he got invaluable playing time...

And, he got better! Know it's frustrating when you see those plays, I feel ya, but he was a rookie man, in his second game, which he hadn't even started...

Not banging on you, but asking for some perspective with the lad...
Diz sometimes has a problem moving on from the past. ;-)

dizzle88 06-01-2017 07:13 AM
Re: Who will emerge in Saints' logjam of talented cornerbacks?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 751383)
Dizz, remind us again where he was drafted and how many games he had started in the NFL at that point?

He was an absolute theft for us in the UDFA Rookie Market; and, because of injuries, he got invaluable playing time...

And, he got better! Know it's frustrating when you see those plays, I feel ya, but he was a rookie man, in his second game, which he hadn't even started...

Not banging on you, but asking for some perspective with the lad...
I get what your saying and it's probably not all on him, all I can think at the minute is he picked off Brees about 4 times in training camp and then couldn't make the play when it mattered. But then again, even Breaux sucked last year. Let's hope for some improvement this year.

K Major 06-01-2017 08:07 AM
Re: Who will emerge in Saints' logjam of talented cornerbacks?
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 751398)
But then again, even Breaux sucked last year. Let's hope for some improvement this year.
Hoping for a healthy Breaux this season. He played poorly after coming back from the injury.

jeanpierre 07-03-2017 10:57 AM
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This is what I was talking about - young and hungry - like Clubber Lang going into the first bout with Rocky - this is what you want on defense...

darstep 07-04-2017 06:38 AM
Re: Who will emerge in Saints' logjam of talented cornerbacks?
 
None of it matters if nothing is happening up front.
If we are asking these guys to still cover after a double-move then it's all mute.
If they have to bang every week in run support we will be back to calling in reserves by week 5.
I'm still waiting for us to find ONE good shutdown corner who can take 1/2 the field away (and pay him).
That would make things SO much easier for everyone else.
The front 7 can make these guys look really good if they are manning up.
But if not, minor weaknesses that get exposed are magnified and can look pretty bad.
I would be happy actually seeing our guys turn and make a play on the ball.
Cat fighting after the ball whizzes past your ear hole is little league stuff.
Kind of pisses me off when I see it at the NFL level.
I'm hoping for some improved play up front to help these guys out.
5'-10", 5'-11", 6'-0" and 6'-1" need all the help they can get.

jeanpierre 07-04-2017 08:38 AM
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Realise, this will be a very, very young secondary that could potentially start two (2) rookies in CB Marshon Lattimore and FS Marcus Williams; one (1) sophomore in SS Vonn Bell; one (1) third season CB in Delvin Breaux; and then the hybrid back in Kenny Vaccaro is in his fifth season as the veteran of the group...

Expect ebbs and flow. Too minimize exposing this young defense, the rotation of the front seven will be paramount. But we should also start to see Pass Defense plays made like we expected when we backed the truck up for Jairus Byrd...

halloween 65 07-04-2017 12:41 PM
Re: Who will emerge in Saints' logjam of talented cornerbacks?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 754234)
Realise, this will be a very, very young secondary that could potentially start two (2) rookies in CB Marshon Lattimore and FS Marcus Williams; one (1) sophomore in SS Vonn Bell; one (1) third season CB in Delvin Breaux; and then the hybrid back in Kenny Vaccaro is in his fifth season as the veteran of the group...

Expect ebbs and flow. Too minimize exposing this young defense, the rotation of the front seven will be paramount. But we should also start to see Pass Defense plays made like we expected when we backed the truck up for Jairus Byrd...
When Ireland was in Miami he put a good secondary together. It took 2 years but went well. Our secondary should start looking good by mid-season and should look really good next season. I'm not sold on Vaccarro. Nothing special!!

|Mitch| 07-04-2017 02:09 PM
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Here we go:


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