Can Tyeler Davison be "next man up" for the New Orleans Saints?

jeanpierre · 06-08-2017, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Are you saying we did not need to resign Nickie and we wasted cap money?

Backed into a corner...

Here's the thing - No, I didn't like the signing overall, because Fairley has shown his impact is limited with a rep count (and now it seems the reasons why it is thus are more serious since he was extended 90+ days ago); commtting that much money for limited reps, no, I really don't like that ratio of money spent to plays on the field...

However, understood what his impact on the pass rush; second, there were limited options on the free agent market; third, we could not afford to regress with regards to our pass rush...

Loomis and Payton had ignored, neglected the defensive position far too long and the team fell into a bad situation with limited choices and had to make a very expensive quick fix for what has been a historically bad defense...

Rugby Saint II · 06-08-2017, 12:47 PM

Clicking on the link led me to some other articles. The one on Onyamata is very informative. I think that Onyamata is a future star while Davison is going to be solid in stopping the run which is what he's good at. They both have me feeling better about the interior push from the D-line if Fairley misses any time.

K Major · 06-08-2017, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Clicking on the link led me to some other articles. The one on Onyamata is very informative. I think that Onyamata is a future star while Davison is going to be solid in stopping the run which is what he's good at. They both have me feeling better about the interior push from the D-line if Fairley misses any time.

It's extremely hard to find these guys in the draft and they cost high coin in Free Agency. Probably why 8 of the 12 highest paid defenders are players who can provide an interior rush.

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K Major · 06-09-2017, 12:01 PM

Saints defensive tackle Tyeler Davison expects to be full go for training camp | NOLA.com

Cruize · 06-09-2017, 04:11 PM

He's a very solid, workman-like player. He is a good rotational guy. He's just not who you want starting.

blackangold · 06-09-2017, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

He's a very solid, workman-like player. He is a good rotational guy. He's just not who you want starting.

He already is/was starting.

He and Onymata rotated at one position while Rankins and Nick rotated at the other. However, if Nick can't play, we do need to sign a vet in my opinion. There is one or two guys still available that could add to our rotation. Nick was a very valuable player as he gave a push in the middle we haven't had in many years.

ChrisXVI · 06-09-2017, 06:33 PM

It's a little bit complex. Fairley and Rankins both spent plenty of time lined up at the 1 and 3-techniques. In 3 man fronts Fairley played NT while Rankins was out at 5-technique. So there was a lot of scheme versatility that having Fairley and Rankins allowed us.

Davison has pretty strictly been used as a NT. I think Onyemata would be the more likely candidate to play a larger role due to his versatility. You could even line him up at strongside DE and kick Jordan inside next to Rankins if that gives a more favorable matchup.

SmashMouth · 06-10-2017, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Saints defensive tackle Tyeler Davison expects to be full go for training camp | NOLA.com

Rugby Saint II · 06-10-2017, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

It's a little bit complex. Fairley and Rankins both spent plenty of time lined up at the 1 and 3-techniques. In 3 man fronts Fairley played NT while Rankins was out at 5-technique. So there was a lot of scheme versatility that having Fairley and Rankins allowed us.

Davison has pretty strictly been used as a NT. I think Onyemata would be the more likely candidate to play a larger role due to his versatility. You could even line him up at strongside DE and kick Jordan inside next to Rankins if that gives a more favorable matchup.

If Fairley doesn't return then we finally have a little depth and should still be competitive at DT in the middle. Of course with Fairley we are deeper than ever before with a heck of a rotation. Fingers crossed for Fairley.....and the Saints.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Can Tyeler Davison be "next man up" for the New Orleans Saints? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Are you saying we did not need to resign Nickie and we wasted cap money? Backed into a corner... Here's the thing - No, I didn't like the signing overall, because Fairley has shown his impact is limited with a rep count (and now it seems the reasons why it is thus are more serious since he was extended 90+ days ago); commtting that much money for limited reps, no, I really don't like that ratio of money spent to plays on the field... However, understood what his impact on the pass rush; second, there were limited options on the free agent market; third, we could not afford to regress with regards to our pass rush... Loomis and Payton had ignored, neglected the defensive position far too long and the team fell into a bad situation with limited choices and had to make a very expensive quick fix for what has been a historically bad defense...
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Can Tyeler Davison be "next man up" for the New Orleans Saints? Clicking on the link led me to some other articles. The one on Onyamata is very informative. I think that Onyamata is a future star while Davison is going to be solid in stopping the run which is what he's good at. They both have me feeling better about the interior push from the D-line if Fairley misses any time.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Can Tyeler Davison be "next man up" for the New Orleans Saints? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Clicking on the link led me to some other articles. The one on Onyamata is very informative. I think that Onyamata is a future star while Davison is going to be solid in stopping the run which is what he's good at. They both have me feeling better about the interior push from the D-line if Fairley misses any time. It's extremely hard to find these guys in the draft and they cost high coin in Free Agency. Probably why 8 of the 12 highest paid defenders are players who can provide an interior rush. Source - NFL Salary Rankings \| Spotrac jnormand likes this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Can Tyeler Davison be "next man up" for the New Orleans Saints? Originally Posted by Cruize He's a very solid, workman-like player. He is a good rotational guy. He's just not who you want starting. He already is/was starting. He and Onymata rotated at one position while Rankins and Nick rotated at the other. However, if Nick can't play, we do need to sign a vet in my opinion. There is one or two guys still available that could add to our rotation. Nick was a very valuable player as he gave a push in the middle we haven't had in many years.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Can Tyeler Davison be "next man up" for the New Orleans Saints? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI It's a little bit complex. Fairley and Rankins both spent plenty of time lined up at the 1 and 3-techniques. In 3 man fronts Fairley played NT while Rankins was out at 5-technique. So there was a lot of scheme versatility that having Fairley and Rankins allowed us. Davison has pretty strictly been used as a NT. I think Onyemata would be the more likely candidate to play a larger role due to his versatility. You could even line him up at strongside DE and kick Jordan inside next to Rankins if that gives a more favorable matchup. If Fairley doesn't return then we finally have a little depth and should still be competitive at DT in the middle. Of course with Fairley we are deeper than ever before with a heck of a rotation. Fingers crossed for Fairley.....and the Saints.

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