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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There is a thing called "best practices" in medicine. Surgery is never the first option if any other option is available. Doing it any other way would be, in your own words, "playing games". I know ...
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06-15-2017, 08:56 AM | #11 |
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
No that is because most claims adjusters try and limit their cost so they always go with the conservative approach. Anyone who has been hurt on the job knows how those people work. The saints and Max do not have that issue.
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Note my previous post, JP. There really was no other choice than to hope it would heal on its own. That is "best practice" and is basically mandated due to risk of any surgery.
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Originally Posted by spkb25
No. Claims adjusters have nothing to do with it. It is the legal system. Doctors have to always attempt the less invasive option first or they are liable. The Saints, as a liable party, have to also abide by those practices.
Claim adjusters are only ever involved AFTER something has been done medically. They are NEVER involved with any ongoing case. You have no clue what you are talking about. |
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
They're not liable if they explain your full options to you and risk, and then you sign with full knowledge. It has EVERYTHING to do with claims adjusters and saving money
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Originally Posted by spkb25
I worked for a medical claims company for 17.5 years. I know all about medical claims. That is different than malpractice claims. Completely different animals. Medical insurance and its claims are all about holding down costs and protecting the patient and/or employer. Malpractice insurance and its claims are all about protecting the hospital/doctor from lawsuits.
Surgery also opens up risk to things such as infection and nerve damage. No reputable surgeon would encourage surgery until all other options had been addressed. That is not how things work in the medical arena. But, in Unger's case it was properly managed and surgery was done within a time frame that would return him to the field in time for the regular season. |
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
I sold medical equipment to Ochsner. It was a nasty place with a bad reputation.
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Won't play a game for the Saints this year and probably will have to retire. Foot surgeries on extremely large athletes does not usually work out well.
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Is that a fact? Have you got a crystal ball? And what evidence do you have to back up your claim of lack of success of Lisfranc surgeries on extremely large athletes? Medical journal study perhaps?
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06-15-2017, 04:12 PM | #20 |
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Re: Saints center Max Unger plans to be back as the starter for the season opener
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
No, I understand your point, it's just with Unger's sheer size alone, the stress of being on the foot, just bearing that excess weight should've been factored...
Then there's the whole professional athlete training component (it's not like he's in sales, can sit at his desk and get the weight off his foot; and ride the cart for a few months when playing golf)... I'd thought they'd been a little more assertive in getting ahead of his Lisfranc injury and stabilizing his arch was the point I was making... |
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