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AsylumGuido 06-26-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 753628)
I voted to let him walk as a FA. Not that I dislike him but would liked to have a better player able to be more effective while at nose. I hope he has a good life outside of football.

I hope he gets this resolved and returns to the Saints to finish out his contract.

Beastmode 06-27-2017 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 753627)
NF was our second best pass rusher, possibly top 15 in the NFL with interior pressure & had 3 good years as a DT just hitting his prime.

He was far from a "journeyman".

3 teams in 6 years. We got a good year out of him. And the timing of his condition is really sweet for him. Almost too perfect:

March gets the deal. June he is done. Possible things took a turn for the worse in a matter of weeks but highly improbable.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 753651)
3 teams in 6 years. We got a good year out of him. And the timing of his condition is really sweet for him. Almost too perfect:

March gets the deal. June he is done. Possible things took a turn for the worse in a matter of weeks but highly improbable.

Highly improbable? Based upon what? Every new contract is preceded by a physical exam. What was found at OTA's in an exam three months later would have been found during the exam in March if it was present.

Papa Voodoo 06-27-2017 10:16 AM

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Health first, good decision by all. I hope there is a procedure that can help him live a long, healthy life with less worry. No reason to risk it. My football fan brain does lament not having both he and Junior (with his head on straight) out there with Rankins and Jordan.

halloween 65 06-27-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 753632)
injury settlement time

Based on camp injury and the worries as players injuries started to rear it's ugly head

2018 nfl draft
R1 - Vita Vea DT Washington 6041 332 5.19 #50 rJr
R3 - Frank Ragnow C/OG,Arkansas 6052 319 5.14 #72 Sr

Top FA signing - not sold we have the starter yet
Stephon Tuitt DE Steelers

Now you have a solid DE rotation.

I would have took Vea this year if he left college. I also like the Arkansas guy. Both should be solid blue collar picks. Don't know if the Steelers let go of Tuitt.

spkb25 06-27-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 753623)
Just further evidence that the front office and Sean need to go. How many times are they gonna make same mistake.

Here we go with all the excuses to sheild them both from blame from the blind people who dont or WON'T see it. Ready 3 2 1.

Shrimp you can't really pay any attention to people posting on here and criticizing you. Those same people said we were weaker without NF and now since he will not play they say that we are no better or worse without him. If those seem like conflicting ideas that is because they are.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753676)
Shrimp you can't really pay any attention to people posting on here and criticizing you. Those same people said we were weaker without NF and now since he will not play they say that we are no better or worse without him. If those seem like conflicting ideas that is because they are.

Exactly who and where did anyone say the Saints would be better without Fairley? I have read every post concerning Fairley and I haven't seen anyone imply that. It was hinted at concerning Armstead's absence, though.

Thirty3 06-27-2017 12:08 PM

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Don't know the contract. Haven't heard from front office about it. Here's a supposition. IF they did not have a clause concerning his condition and playing they BLEW it. If they did have a clause..It was a head's up contract. One thing for sure - going forward they will have a clause for all such contingencies.

Beastmode 06-27-2017 12:31 PM

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I think they signed him to take care of him knowing his condition was not good. His condition is progressive from my understanding. Improbable it went from fine to horrible that fast.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 753681)
Don't know the contract. Haven't heard from front office about it. Here's a supposition. IF they did not have a clause concerning his condition and playing they BLEW it. If they did have a clause..It was a head's up contract. One thing for sure - going forward they will have a clause for all such contingencies.

I know they have contingencies built into Manti Te'o's contract with him coming off his injury. But, guarantees in contracts are guarantees. Now, they could negotiate a reduction of guarantees such as signing bonuses. If they want to be hardasses they can even try to prove the players failed to report conditions they knew about that were unknown to the team. That is standard verbiage in the NFL player contract.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 12:44 PM

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I heard mentioned on NFL Radio that it may have been arrhythmia that was detected at the OTA exam. That can arise in anyone, but obviously more likely in someone with an already known heart condition. That would be a heart beat that was too slow, too fast or irregular.

AllSaints 06-27-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753616)
Pretty Amazing watching some people talk out of both sides of their mouth.

http://blackandgold.com/saints/81597...staying-2.html

Idk of your referring to my comment in that post but he did earn it to get paid... never said we should of let him go...

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 753686)
Idk of your referring to my comment in that post but he did earn it to get paid... never said we should of let him go...

I don't know what he's talking about. I doubt he knows what he is talking about. LOL!

AllSaints 06-27-2017 12:49 PM

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You have to look at a players career... you can't judge off one season he is inconsistent over his career... he had a good year and deserved to get paid I'm not against the contract...

spkb25 06-27-2017 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 753686)
Idk of your referring to my comment in that post but he did earn it to get paid... never said we should of let him go...

no, I am referring to people who insist in one instance we are weaker without said player and then turn around (because the situation necessitates a different outlook) and say we are no better or worse without the player. It can't be both.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 753690)
no, I am referring to people who insist in one instance we are weaker without said player and then turn around (because the situation necessitates a different outlook) and say we are no better or worse without the player. It can't be both.

Once again, who exactly is it you claim said those things? I have not seen ANYONE say we would be better off without Fairley.

Well?

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 01:23 PM

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Just what I thought. You're just making crap up, spkb25, to fit some sort of personal agenda.

Papa Voodoo 06-27-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 753689)
You have to look at a players career... you can't judge off one season he is inconsistent over his career... he had a good year and deserved to get paid I'm not against the contract...

Sometimes the change is all they need. Malcolm Jenkins is exhibit A.

spkb25 06-27-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 753693)
Sometimes the change is all they need. Malcolm Jenkins is exhibit A.

I always felt and said MJ's best year with us was his final season. You could see he had started to put it together. That was why I was perplexed when we let him walk.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 03:55 PM

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I was able to get confirmation today on NFL Live on ESPN. As I was pretty sure, a new contract always requires a physical exam. Whatever the Saints medical staff found during the pre OTA exam of Fairley, which all players go through, was not present during the exam back in March prior to the signing of his new contract. You cannot put this on the Saints front office at all. They did their due diligence, but fate stepped in.

Seer1 06-27-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 753693)
Sometimes the change in coaching is all they need. Malcolm Jenkins is exhibit A.

FIFY

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 753701)
FIFY

Bingo! Hopefully the coaching changes will make a huge difference with the defense. I am expecting that outcome for certain.

Beastmode 06-27-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 753699)
I was able to get confirmation today on NFL Live on ESPN. As I was pretty sure, a new contract always requires a physical exam. Whatever the Saints medical staff found during the pre OTA exam of Fairley, which all players go through, was not present during the exam back in March prior to the signing of his new contract. You cannot put this on the Saints front office at all. They did their due diligence, but fate stepped in.

Or maybe they knew but wanted to take care of him. I don't know but that is a short time frame for something to go from pass to fail for something he has been playing with for years.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 753706)
Or maybe they knew but wanted to take care of him. I don't know but that is a short time frame for something to go from pass to fail for something he has been playing with for years.

They could have taken care of him without a contract and off the books. Teams have done stuff like that for years. Arrhythmia can appear suddenly.

AsylumGuido 06-27-2017 06:37 PM

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Hey, spk! Any clues yet on that mysterious poster that you claimed crap about? Just admit you screwed up in your crusade and move on.
:D

darksoul35 06-28-2017 02:39 PM

Re: Nick Fairley Placed on NFI
 
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Originally Posted by 73Saint (Post 753596)
Can we point the finger at someone here? Seems to me this is a big mistake someone in our front office needs to be accountable for. How on earth do you sign someone who already has an enlarged heart, to a long-term deal? Hell, how is he NOT getting physicals more often than anyone based on his pre existing condition alone???

I wish nothing but the best for Fairly, my frustration isn't pointed at him at all. But how does this even happen???!!!

I take up for the front office 99 percent of the time but I feel you on this one. We have to quit paying players to not play. This is getting ridiculous

ChrisXVI 06-28-2017 02:58 PM

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Former Ravens stud LB Zach Orr is coming out of retirement after having a spinal injury... We should probably give him $20 million guaranteed!

(Just a little humor folks.)

dizzle88 06-28-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 753801)
Former Ravens stud LB Zach Orr is coming out of retirement after having a spinal injury... We should probably give him $20 million guaranteed!

(Just a little humor folks.)

Mickey and Sean probably would to be honest!

Cruize 06-29-2017 04:56 PM

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I hope Fairley lives a LONG and happy life. But, I just can't help but think he scammed the Saints. His heart was healthy enough to hold the pen when he signed for millions. Then, he can't play. Just doesn't pass the smell test.

AsylumGuido 06-29-2017 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 753926)
I hope Fairley lives a LONG and happy life. But, I just can't help but think he scammed the Saints. His heart was healthy enough to hold the pen when he signed for millions. Then, he can't play. Just doesn't pass the smell test.

He was examined before signing the contract and was cleared. It was during the OTA exam when they found something new. Word is it was arrythmia which can creep up quickly and out of the blue.The smell is fine. The luck isn't.

CharityMike 06-29-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 753801)
Former Ravens stud LB Zach Orr is coming out of retirement after having a spinal injury... We should probably give him $20 million guaranteed!

(Just a little humor folks.)

Funny thing is..the Jets are bringing him in for a visit lol.

AsylumGuido 06-29-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 753948)
Funny thing is..the Jets are bringing him in for a visit lol.

I read up on it some. It's not as dangerous as we might think. He while rare it isn't unknown. It is an incomplete disc at C1. That is the disc at he very top of the spinal column. It is actually inside of the helmet and one of the most protected areas of the spinal column.

CharityMike 06-30-2017 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 753953)
I read up on it some. It's not as dangerous as we might think. He while rare it isn't unknown. It is an incomplete disc at C1. That is the disc at he very top of the spinal column. It is actually inside of the helmet and one of the most protected areas of the spinal column.

No..just no! Don't go giving our team brass any ideas!

AsylumGuido 06-30-2017 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 753956)
No..just no! Don't go giving our team brass any ideas!

We already have plenty of depth at LB. I do wish him luck wherever he does land ... as long as it is no one we face the year.

Rugby Saint II 07-05-2017 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 753581)
Time for Onyemata/Zimmer to step up!!!

Actually, I think Davison would fill Fairleys role as a run stopper. I believe that Onyamata is better against the pass. We don'tknow what we have in Zimmer but we have been successful raiding other teams practice squads.


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