Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter

RailBoss · 07-09-2017, 11:18 AM

Cedit Vic Fangio From 1986 to 1994 New Orleans Saints' linebackers coach, where he oversaw the Dome Patrol era of outstanding linebacker play.

foreverfan · 07-09-2017, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Brees/Payton offense in prime + Dome Patrol D + Morten ...

We'd be Durant Golden State Warriors good, with New England playing the role of the Cavs.

How did I forgot Morten Anderson???

Rugby Saint II · 07-09-2017, 02:33 PM

He had his moments.......apparently he's still having them.

skymike · 07-10-2017, 09:15 AM

Payton Manning's father was Archie Manning.
Archie Manning is from Mississippi.
Mississippi had slaves.
Therefore a statue of Payton Manning is racist and
must be taken down.

skymike · 07-10-2017, 09:18 AM

- back to the thread.
I dont believe this... How do we know WHY Mora isnt coming to this?
Maybe he has a prior engagement.

FF is 100% right. If this team with Peyton & Brees had Mora's (and Bum's) Dome Patrol Defense, we would be the greatest team in NFL History.

In a related note, if Aunt Ruth had balls, she'd be Uncle Bert.

Seer1 · 07-10-2017, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

- back to the thread.
I dont believe this... How do we know WHY Mora isnt coming to this?
Maybe he has a prior engagement.

FF is 100% right. If this team with Peyton & Brees had Mora's (and Bum's) Dome Patrol Defense, we would be the greatest team in NFL History.

He could have a job interview you know...

On a related note, if wishes were horses then beggars would eat!

foreverfan · 07-10-2017, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

- back to the thread.
I dont believe this... How do we know WHY Mora isnt coming to this?
Maybe he has a prior engagement.

FF is 100% right. If this team with Peyton & Brees had Mora's (and Bum's) Dome Patrol Defense, we would be the greatest team in NFL History.

In a related note, if Aunt Ruth had balls, she'd be Uncle Bert.

Just for the record... I didn't give you a "LIKE" because of the Uncle Bert comment.

skymike · 07-10-2017, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Just for the record... I didn't give you a "LIKE" because of the Uncle Bert comment.

awww... you're just jealous cuz YOU didnt say it first....hahaha

QBREES9 · 07-14-2017, 09:50 PM

Mora, I'd agree to that.

jeanpierre · 07-14-2017, 11:35 PM

Gotta disagree with y'all about matching "Mora's Defense" to Payton's Offense...

First Point: There are two names that really should be getting the credit for that defense -

Jim Finks and Steve Sidwell, not Mora

Second Point: Mora and Payton would have killed each other in the locker room fighting over strategy...

Mora didn't trust throwing the ball alot, he prefered the Ground Chuck approach, eating clock...

Payton believes in a full, no-holds-barred, aerial assault as if he were playing in Arena Football...

Third Point: While there definitely would have been a pass rush, there's no way of knowing if the Saints secondary, particularly the cornerbacks could compete in today's no touch, no grab NFL rules; Toi Cook was often the weak link on that defense, particularly at the end of games (a familiar theme these past seasons since the Superbowl win)...

Final Thought: There's one disturbing parallel though - as both coaches tenures became longer and they acquired more personnel authority, with fewer checks and balances, they made horrible personnel moves...

Two bright spots for Payton -

First, hiring Jeff Ireland to come in and get the Personnel Dept up to par with the offfensive success and though, slowly, painfully, give back some of that authority (trust) in personnel moves...

Second, hiring Mike Nolan and Ryan Nielsen to support Dennis Allen looks to be a brilliant, fortunate move and may very well boost the back half of Payton's run as Saints Head Coach...

07-09-2017, 11:18 AM	#11
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Cedit Vic Fangio From 1986 to 1994 New Orleans Saints' linebackers coach, where he oversaw the Dome Patrol era of outstanding linebacker play.

07-09-2017, 12:05 PM	#12
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Originally Posted by neugey Brees/Payton offense in prime + Dome Patrol D + Morten ... We'd be Durant Golden State Warriors good, with New England playing the role of the Cavs. How did I forgot Morten Anderson??? skymike likes this.

07-09-2017, 02:33 PM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter He had his moments.......apparently he's still having them. foreverfan and K Major like this.

07-10-2017, 09:15 AM	#14
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Payton Manning's father was Archie Manning. Archie Manning is from Mississippi. Mississippi had slaves. Therefore a statue of Payton Manning is racist and must be taken down. MatthewT, foreverfan, jeanpierre and 1 others like this.

07-10-2017, 09:18 AM	#15
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter - back to the thread. I dont believe this... How do we know WHY Mora isnt coming to this? Maybe he has a prior engagement. FF is 100% right. If this team with Peyton & Brees had Mora's (and Bum's) Dome Patrol Defense, we would be the greatest team in NFL History. In a related note, if Aunt Ruth had balls, she'd be Uncle Bert. MatthewT, hagan714, foreverfan and 1 others like this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Originally Posted by skymike - back to the thread. I dont believe this... How do we know WHY Mora isnt coming to this? Maybe he has a prior engagement. FF is 100% right. If this team with Peyton & Brees had Mora's (and Bum's) Dome Patrol Defense, we would be the greatest team in NFL History. He could have a job interview you know... On a related note, if wishes were horses then beggars would eat! skymike likes this.

07-10-2017, 11:01 AM	#17
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Originally Posted by skymike - back to the thread. I dont believe this... How do we know WHY Mora isnt coming to this? Maybe he has a prior engagement. FF is 100% right. If this team with Peyton & Brees had Mora's (and Bum's) Dome Patrol Defense, we would be the greatest team in NFL History. In a related note, if Aunt Ruth had balls, she'd be Uncle Bert. Just for the record... I didn't give you a "LIKE" because of the Uncle Bert comment. skymike likes this.

07-10-2017, 06:38 PM	#18
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Originally Posted by foreverfan Just for the record... I didn't give you a "LIKE" because of the Uncle Bert comment. awww... you're just jealous cuz YOU didnt say it first....hahaha foreverfan likes this.

07-14-2017, 09:50 PM	#19
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Mora, I'd agree to that.

07-14-2017, 11:35 PM	#20
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Second "Greatest" Coach in Saints History Still Bitter Gotta disagree with y'all about matching "Mora's Defense" to Payton's Offense... First Point: There are two names that really should be getting the credit for that defense - Jim Finks and Steve Sidwell, not Mora Second Point: Mora and Payton would have killed each other in the locker room fighting over strategy... Mora didn't trust throwing the ball alot, he prefered the Ground Chuck approach, eating clock... Payton believes in a full, no-holds-barred, aerial assault as if he were playing in Arena Football... Third Point: While there definitely would have been a pass rush, there's no way of knowing if the Saints secondary, particularly the cornerbacks could compete in today's no touch, no grab NFL rules; Toi Cook was often the weak link on that defense, particularly at the end of games (a familiar theme these past seasons since the Superbowl win)... Final Thought: There's one disturbing parallel though - as both coaches tenures became longer and they acquired more personnel authority, with fewer checks and balances, they made horrible personnel moves... Two bright spots for Payton - First, hiring Jeff Ireland to come in and get the Personnel Dept up to par with the offfensive success and though, slowly, painfully, give back some of that authority (trust) in personnel moves... Second, hiring Mike Nolan and Ryan Nielsen to support Dennis Allen looks to be a brilliant, fortunate move and may very well boost the back half of Payton's run as Saints Head Coach... MatthewT, hagan714, foreverfan and 1 others like this.
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