Vonn Bell Stat

ChrisXVI · 07-11-2017, 06:12 PM

What did they say about him pre-draft? Let's take a look at NFL.com's draft profile...

Against the run, allows running backs to get on top of him and deliver the first blow. Drag down tackler without much thud.

You can't play him around the line of scrimmage, but he's got instincts in coverage." -- AFC scout

Bell lacks size and isn't an aggressive tackler so he needs to prove he can run so that he locks in his draft positioning as one of the top free safeties in this draft.

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dizzle88 · 07-11-2017, 06:43 PM

It seems as though his draft evaluation was the complete opposite of what happened, it seems his ball hawking skills need work but his tackling is on point.

jeanpierre · 07-11-2017, 08:03 PM

K Major · 07-11-2017, 08:44 PM

Vonn showed flashes but there were rookie mistakes. I think this was a good draft selection and he has the skill set to become a very good safety.

Side note - the last analyst was way off target ... Vonn is already an above average tackler. You can see he was well coached in college by the way he approaches the defender at the point of contact/chin up.

ChrisXVI · 07-11-2017, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Vonn showed flashes but there were rookie mistakes. I think this was a good draft selection and he has the skill set to become a very good safety.

He was downright lost in zone coverage at times. That was pretty unexpected. By all accounts though he very quickly took over as the leader of the defense and he's making the pre-snap adjustments. I think he very quickly gained Dennis Allen's trust so I'm expecting a big season from him.

K Major · 07-11-2017, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He was downright lost in zone coverage at times.

I think the idea this year would be to continue primarily in zone but Coach Allen should mix it up with press due to the current roster. I've seen Breaux succeed (press coverage) at it & I have no doubt Lattimore can get there because his make up speed is ridiculous.

Press man = a pass rush that can eventually arrive with bad intentions. But back to Vonn... I'm high on him, exceptional football IQ & he's tough.

Rugby Saint II · 07-12-2017, 02:26 PM

I know it's premature but he could make KV expendable. He has a similar skill set with a higher ceiling. He may not be as good in the box but the SS needs to be more flexible than say Roman Harper(who I love).

leilung · 07-12-2017, 03:53 PM

Personally, after constantly watching the 'Beast Quake' run of 2011 until I physically get ill, I'll take a player who can TACKLE any day of the week! Because all of the "ball hawks" couldn't close that playoff game. Never again....
End of story!

ChrisXVI · 07-12-2017, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I know it's premature but he could make KV expendable. He has a similar skill set with a higher ceiling. He may not be as good in the box but the SS needs to be more flexible than say Roman Harper(who I love).

Completely agree. I didn't want to bring it up because there's a lot of Vaccaro love (which is understandable). If we can actually field 3 good CB's and we have an upgrade at Sam LB like AJ Klein... Where does Vaccaro fit in? If the 3 safety sets become less of a necessity because we have the personnel to do other things I'm just not sure what we do.

AsylumGuido · 07-12-2017, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Completely agree. I didn't want to bring it up because there's a lot of Vaccaro love (which is understandable). If we can actually field 3 good CB's and we have an upgrade at Sam LB like AJ Klein... Where does Vaccaro fit in? If the 3 safety sets become less of a necessity because we have the personnel to do other things I'm just not sure what we do.

It is called depth. Something that killed us with a great offense last season. If we had quality depth on the defensive side of the ball we would have made the playoffs easily.

07-11-2017, 06:12 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Vonn Bell Stat Twitter What did they say about him pre-draft? Let's take a look at NFL.com's draft profile... Against the run, allows running backs to get on top of him and deliver the first blow. Drag down tackler without much thud. You can't play him around the line of scrimmage, but he's got instincts in coverage." -- AFC scout Bell lacks size and isn't an aggressive tackler so he needs to prove he can run so that he locks in his draft positioning as one of the top free safeties in this draft. jnormand, MatthewT, papz and 2 others like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Vonn Bell Stat It seems as though his draft evaluation was the complete opposite of what happened, it seems his ball hawking skills need work but his tackling is on point. jnormand, Rugby Saint II, ChrisXVI and 1 others like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Vonn Bell Stat Vonn showed flashes but there were rookie mistakes. I think this was a good draft selection and he has the skill set to become a very good safety. Side note - the last analyst was way off target ... Vonn is already an above average tackler. You can see he was well coached in college by the way he approaches the defender at the point of contact/chin up. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Vonn Bell Stat Originally Posted by K Major Vonn showed flashes but there were rookie mistakes. I think this was a good draft selection and he has the skill set to become a very good safety. He was downright lost in zone coverage at times. That was pretty unexpected. By all accounts though he very quickly took over as the leader of the defense and he's making the pre-snap adjustments. I think he very quickly gained Dennis Allen's trust so I'm expecting a big season from him. RailBoss and Rugby Saint II like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Vonn Bell Stat Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He was downright lost in zone coverage at times. I think the idea this year would be to continue primarily in zone but Coach Allen should mix it up with press due to the current roster. I've seen Breaux succeed (press coverage) at it & I have no doubt Lattimore can get there because his make up speed is ridiculous. Press man = a pass rush that can eventually arrive with bad intentions. But back to Vonn... I'm high on him, exceptional football IQ & he's tough. Rugby Saint II and ChrisXVI like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Vonn Bell Stat I know it's premature but he could make KV expendable. He has a similar skill set with a higher ceiling. He may not be as good in the box but the SS needs to be more flexible than say Roman Harper(who I love). ChrisXVI likes this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Vonn Bell Stat Personally, after constantly watching the 'Beast Quake' run of 2011 until I physically get ill, I'll take a player who can TACKLE any day of the week! Because all of the "ball hawks" couldn't close that playoff game. Never again.... End of story! jnormand, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Vonn Bell Stat Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I know it's premature but he could make KV expendable. He has a similar skill set with a higher ceiling. He may not be as good in the box but the SS needs to be more flexible than say Roman Harper(who I love). Completely agree. I didn't want to bring it up because there's a lot of Vaccaro love (which is understandable). If we can actually field 3 good CB's and we have an upgrade at Sam LB like AJ Klein... Where does Vaccaro fit in? If the 3 safety sets become less of a necessity because we have the personnel to do other things I'm just not sure what we do.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,222	Re: Vonn Bell Stat Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Completely agree. I didn't want to bring it up because there's a lot of Vaccaro love (which is understandable). If we can actually field 3 good CB's and we have an upgrade at Sam LB like AJ Klein... Where does Vaccaro fit in? If the 3 safety sets become less of a necessity because we have the personnel to do other things I'm just not sure what we do. It is called depth. Something that killed us with a great offense last season. If we had quality depth on the defensive side of the ball we would have made the playoffs easily.

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