Whose our biggest threat in the division?

The Dude · 07-19-2017, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

This looks like a year were all the teams in the division will be loaded to put up points. I am trying to remember a time when NFC South was so loaded fire power.

Turn overs at key moments in the game could be the difference.

Yep. Getting the ball back to Drew as much as possible is key.

The Dude · 07-19-2017, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I know. I was about to ask what the Titans QB has to do with Tampa myself.

Btw after I posted that I knew it would be you who read the whole thing to try and point out whatever you could find wrong with the thread.

AsylumGuido · 07-19-2017, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Btw after I posted that I knew it would be you who read the whole thing to try and point out whatever you could find wrong with the thread.

I was only the second one. Pretty much everyone in here would have pointed that out. I did read the whole thing and thought you made some very good points, to which I did point out that I agreed.

K Major · 07-19-2017, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

If we had even the CB's we have now with the rest of last year's defense we would have won both of those games.

Unfortunately our problems on defense were not just last season ...

I'm speaking big picture on defense Guido. I think some here are drastically underestimating how bad the Saints defense has been over the years. Historically our Saints haven't been just bad, they've been record setting bad. Worse than the Cleveland Browns. Worse than Jacksonville. 2012 was record setting bad, 2015 was even worse (passing td allowed with 45+). I'm at a loss for words. Over the last 3 years, the Saints are literally dead last in points per game allowed.

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...fense_ren.html

Fix the defense.

foreverfan · 07-19-2017, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

This looks like a year were all the teams in the division will be loaded to put up points. I am trying to remember a time when NFC South was so loaded fire power.

Turn overs at key moments in the game could be the difference.

When we had the 49ers, Rams and Saints... wait...

You can't remember... end of conversation....

jeanpierre · 07-19-2017, 10:43 AM

Carolina is the wild card - Can McCaffrey take enough heat off Princess Newton to give him five seconds to set up and throw downfield? Can their defense rebound to Top 5 status? Just don't see where they upgraded that secondary, especially since losing Josh Norman...

Tampa Bay will be limited by their quarterback play which I believe will be erratic as long as they have the Lobster Robbler throwing for them; they've done nothing to improve a porous defense; they'll be a lot of pressure on the offensive coaches and Winston after committing a draft to offensive skill positions...

Atlanta had a great year, especially against us; BUT, we were down our starting NT among other defenders in Week 3 and when we did face them in the second matchup, we shut them down in the second half and nearly came back against them, incidentally, giving the Patriots the blue-print to win the Superbowl...

New Orleans, yes, ourselves, may be the biggest threat; But we FINALLY looked in the mirror and made the hard decisions; can't emphasize enough the coaching upgrades, especially Linebacker and Defensive Line; and adding All-Day will force Payton to get the ball to the backfield more which should cut down on putting the defense on the field too often...

jnormand · 07-19-2017, 12:04 PM

I think the south will be a tough division this year. I think TB Is improving. They've added some decent WRs, although I think Winston is a bit overrated. The birds are are coming off that embarrassing SB loss. Carolina is still capable, still have a tough defense, but man I love watching Cam whine.

I think the Saints are the most underrated and are the biggest question mark. Brought in some quality pieces on defense and on paper, drafted pretty good. The coaching changes should shake things up.

Should be a fun season.

dam1953 · 07-19-2017, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Unfortunately our problems on defense were not just last season ...

I'm speaking big picture on defense Guido. I think some here are drastically underestimating how bad the Saints defense has been over the years. Historically our Saints haven't been just bad, they've been record setting bad. Worse than the Cleveland Browns. Worse than Jacksonville. 2012 was record setting bad, 2015 was even worse (passing td allowed with 45+). I'm at a loss for words. Over the last 3 years, the Saints are literally dead last in points per game allowed.

So many Saints defensive issues, so little time remaining to fix them | NOLA.com

Fix the defense.

Considering that the Saints' D literally set records those years I can't see how many here would underestimate how bad they really were.

I think that the biggest improvement on D is dumping a few of the albatross around the neck coaches we have been carrying. When you have a revolving door at linebacker and things never seem to get better, it's time to change the coach. Thank God someone slapped some sense into Payton.

dam1953 · 07-19-2017, 12:16 PM

I'm hoping that the Falcons are still hungover from the Big Choke in last years Super Bowl and pull a first to worst in 2017.

spkb25 · 07-19-2017, 12:22 PM

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by hagan714 This looks like a year were all the teams in the division will be loaded to put up points. I am trying to remember a time when NFC South was so loaded fire power. Turn overs at key moments in the game could be the difference. Yep. Getting the ball back to Drew as much as possible is key. dam1953 likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I know. I was about to ask what the Titans QB has to do with Tampa myself. Btw after I posted that I knew it would be you who read the whole thing to try and point out whatever you could find wrong with the thread.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by The Dude Btw after I posted that I knew it would be you who read the whole thing to try and point out whatever you could find wrong with the thread. I was only the second one. Pretty much everyone in here would have pointed that out. I did read the whole thing and thought you made some very good points, to which I did point out that I agreed.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido If we had even the CB's we have now with the rest of last year's defense we would have won both of those games. Unfortunately our problems on defense were not just last season ... I'm speaking big picture on defense Guido. I think some here are drastically underestimating how bad the Saints defense has been over the years. Historically our Saints haven't been just bad, they've been record setting bad. Worse than the Cleveland Browns. Worse than Jacksonville. 2012 was record setting bad, 2015 was even worse (passing td allowed with 45+). I'm at a loss for words. Over the last 3 years, the Saints are literally dead last in points per game allowed. http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...fense_ren.html Fix the defense. jnormand likes this.
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? I think the south will be a tough division this year. I think TB Is improving. They've added some decent WRs, although I think Winston is a bit overrated. The birds are are coming off that embarrassing SB loss. Carolina is still capable, still have a tough defense, but man I love watching Cam whine. I think the Saints are the most underrated and are the biggest question mark. Brought in some quality pieces on defense and on paper, drafted pretty good. The coaching changes should shake things up. Should be a fun season. RailBoss likes this.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by K Major Unfortunately our problems on defense were not just last season ... I'm speaking big picture on defense Guido. I think some here are drastically underestimating how bad the Saints defense has been over the years. Historically our Saints haven't been just bad, they've been record setting bad. Worse than the Cleveland Browns. Worse than Jacksonville. 2012 was record setting bad, 2015 was even worse (passing td allowed with 45+). I'm at a loss for words. Over the last 3 years, the Saints are literally dead last in points per game allowed. So many Saints defensive issues, so little time remaining to fix them \| NOLA.com Fix the defense. Considering that the Saints' D literally set records those years I can't see how many here would underestimate how bad they really were. I think that the biggest improvement on D is dumping a few of the albatross around the neck coaches we have been carrying. When you have a revolving door at linebacker and things never seem to get better, it's time to change the coach. Thank God someone slapped some sense into Payton. jnormand likes this.

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