Whose our biggest threat in the division?

Seer1 · 07-19-2017, 05:26 PM

Our D is our biggest threat. They play well and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-19-2017, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Our D is our biggest threat. They play average and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem.

FIFY

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 07-19-2017, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

FIFY

SFIAH

That's what keeps me so optimistic.

WillSaints81 · 07-20-2017, 01:25 AM

It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB.

Note that we have a back to back home game against them after playing Chicago. If we, as expected, beat up on Chicago, then we face the possibility of getting caught off guard by them. When we play Carolina, Carolina is on a back to back home game against us after playing Buffalo and then has a back to back on the road against us after playing the jets. Atlanta will be facing TB and Minnesota before us on short rest. If we can win that game, we could sweep actually, as Atlanta has to go to TB on MNF the week before going to our place. They will have five days rest therefore and we will be at home back to back after the jets, which with two b2b opportunities and both ends featuring division rivals we cannot squander both situations and Atlanta's five days rest helps.

foreverfan · 07-20-2017, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

everybody

End of conversation.

The real question is who is going to win on the fan fight on this board.

K Major · 07-20-2017, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB.

I just don't see the Bucs as the biggest threat. Jameis can't carry a team yet and they are still a work in progress on defense.

foreverfan · 07-20-2017, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

I just don't see the Bucs as the biggest threat. Jameis can't carry a team yet and they are still a work in progress on defense.

It may not be obvious yet... just like what she is telling you.

gulfgambler · 07-20-2017, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

everybody

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.
7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense.
Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded
if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-20-2017, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB.

Note that we have a back to back home game against them after playing Chicago. If we, as expected, beat up on Chicago, then we face the possibility of getting caught off guard by them. When we play Carolina, Carolina is on a back to back home game against us after playing Buffalo and then has a back to back on the road against us after playing the jets. Atlanta will be facing TB and Minnesota before us on short rest. If we can win that game, we could sweep actually, as Atlanta has to go to TB on MNF the week before going to our place. They will have five days rest therefore and we will be at home back to back after the jets, which with two b2b opportunities and both ends featuring division rivals we cannot squander both situations and Atlanta's five days rest helps.

You are seriously trying to predict December scenarios in July? Let me give you a reminder of how foolish an endeavor this is:

December 18th 2016 from: NFL Playoffs 2016-17: Updated Standings, Bracket Picture and Scenarios | Bleacher Report

The Raiders will win the AFC West if they can close out the season with wins over the Indianapolis Colts and Broncos, no matter how the Chiefs finish. However, if the two teams finish with the same record, the Chiefs will take first place because they swept the season series against the Raiders.

Tennessee remained tied with the Houston Texans (8-6) for first place in the AFC South. While the Texans have the current tiebreaker edge since they beat the Titans earlier this season, those two teams will close the season with a showdown at Tennessee. The winner has the inside track on the AFC South title.

Note that this analysis is in December with the season already 14 games in. Care to predict what happened next?

All predictions are paper tigers at this point. I'd be wary of making a prediction about the 1st preseason game against the Browns much less what will happen in December.

Now I do have a hope. My hope is that the Saints can get to Monday night in Minnesota with no significant injuries and with the scheduled return of Unger going without a hitch.

BTW I agree that the Saints 2017 season will likely turn on the final 8 or 9 games. While the start of the season schedule is brutal, at least on paper the Saints should have opportunities in November and December. And with 4 of the final 5 games being division games, it's likely at the start of December, the team will still be in the division mix.

But as for predictions? I just keep remiding myself that playoff team turnover in the NFL is nearly 40% and that at least one team swaps from the bottom of a division one year to the top the next. So the likelihood that any long term prediction is going to be on the mark is virtually zero.

SFIAH

K Major · 07-20-2017, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.

Gulf,

No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

07-19-2017, 05:26 PM	#21
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Our D is our biggest threat. They play well and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem.

07-19-2017, 05:36 PM	#22
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by Seer1 Our D is our biggest threat. They play average and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem. FIFY SFIAH saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and Seer1 like this.

07-19-2017, 05:42 PM	#23
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL FIFY SFIAH That's what keeps me so optimistic.

07-20-2017, 01:25 AM	#24
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB. Note that we have a back to back home game against them after playing Chicago. If we, as expected, beat up on Chicago, then we face the possibility of getting caught off guard by them. When we play Carolina, Carolina is on a back to back home game against us after playing Buffalo and then has a back to back on the road against us after playing the jets. Atlanta will be facing TB and Minnesota before us on short rest. If we can win that game, we could sweep actually, as Atlanta has to go to TB on MNF the week before going to our place. They will have five days rest therefore and we will be at home back to back after the jets, which with two b2b opportunities and both ends featuring division rivals we cannot squander both situations and Atlanta's five days rest helps.

07-20-2017, 09:13 AM	#25
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by spkb25 everybody End of conversation. The real question is who is going to win on the fan fight on this board.

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07-20-2017, 09:22 AM	#26
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB. I just don't see the Bucs as the biggest threat. Jameis can't carry a team yet and they are still a work in progress on defense.

07-20-2017, 10:16 AM	#27
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by K Major I just don't see the Bucs as the biggest threat. Jameis can't carry a team yet and they are still a work in progress on defense. It may not be obvious yet... just like what she is telling you.

07-20-2017, 10:51 AM	#28
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by spkb25 everybody Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. 7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense. Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

07-20-2017, 10:59 AM	#29
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB. Note that we have a back to back home game against them after playing Chicago. If we, as expected, beat up on Chicago, then we face the possibility of getting caught off guard by them. When we play Carolina, Carolina is on a back to back home game against us after playing Buffalo and then has a back to back on the road against us after playing the jets. Atlanta will be facing TB and Minnesota before us on short rest. If we can win that game, we could sweep actually, as Atlanta has to go to TB on MNF the week before going to our place. They will have five days rest therefore and we will be at home back to back after the jets, which with two b2b opportunities and both ends featuring division rivals we cannot squander both situations and Atlanta's five days rest helps. You are seriously trying to predict December scenarios in July? Let me give you a reminder of how foolish an endeavor this is: December 18th 2016 from: NFL Playoffs 2016-17: Updated Standings, Bracket Picture and Scenarios \| Bleacher Report The Raiders will win the AFC West if they can close out the season with wins over the Indianapolis Colts and Broncos, no matter how the Chiefs finish. However, if the two teams finish with the same record, the Chiefs will take first place because they swept the season series against the Raiders. Tennessee remained tied with the Houston Texans (8-6) for first place in the AFC South. While the Texans have the current tiebreaker edge since they beat the Titans earlier this season, those two teams will close the season with a showdown at Tennessee. The winner has the inside track on the AFC South title. Note that this analysis is in December with the season already 14 games in. Care to predict what happened next? All predictions are paper tigers at this point. I'd be wary of making a prediction about the 1st preseason game against the Browns much less what will happen in December. Now I do have a hope. My hope is that the Saints can get to Monday night in Minnesota with no significant injuries and with the scheduled return of Unger going without a hitch. BTW I agree that the Saints 2017 season will likely turn on the final 8 or 9 games. While the start of the season schedule is brutal, at least on paper the Saints should have opportunities in November and December. And with 4 of the final 5 games being division games, it's likely at the start of December, the team will still be in the division mix. But as for predictions? I just keep remiding myself that playoff team turnover in the NFL is nearly 40% and that at least one team swaps from the bottom of a division one year to the top the next. So the likelihood that any long term prediction is going to be on the mark is virtually zero. SFIAH
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07-20-2017, 11:02 AM	#30
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. Gulf, No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

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