Whose our biggest threat in the division?

gulfgambler · 07-20-2017, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

everybody

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.
7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense.
Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded
if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

K Major · 07-20-2017, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.

Gulf,

No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-20-2017, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.

Originally Posted by K Major

Gulf,

No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example.

The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown.

It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up.

The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place.

Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September.

SFIAH

Seer1 · 07-20-2017, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example.

The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown.

It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up.

The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place.

Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September.

SFIAH

The only surefire anything is whatever you're looking at in the rear view mirror. Compare this year to the year, say Sean was suspended, we threw our second round pick at SLB, the years we kept the same crappy LB and special teams coach, etc... This is the brightest off season and the closest thing we've had to surefire in a long, long while.

AsylumGuido · 07-20-2017, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.
7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense.
Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded
if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

Are you serious?

Drafting the top CB in the entire draft. (Lattimore)
Getting back our top two CB's that were both gone by the second game of the season. (Breaux, Williams)
Adding a ball hawking safety in the 2nd round of the draft. (Williams)
Getting our #1 DT draft pick back from missing half the season with a broken leg. (Rankins)
Adding quality depth through free agency in the LB corps. (Klein, Te'o)
Adding a quality LB through the draft. (Anzalone)
Adding an edge rusher at DE. (Okafor)

And most importantly ...

Getting rid of stagnant coaching at D-Line and LB and adding two outstanding coaches for those major units (Nielsen, Nolan)

07-20-2017, 10:02 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,827 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. Gulf, No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

07-20-2017, 10:22 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. Originally Posted by K Major Gulf, No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D? I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example. The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown. It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up. The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place. Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September. SFIAH
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07-20-2017, 11:29 AM	#4
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example. The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown. It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up. The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place. Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September. SFIAH The only surefire anything is whatever you're looking at in the rear view mirror. Compare this year to the year, say Sean was suspended, we threw our second round pick at SLB, the years we kept the same crappy LB and special teams coach, etc... This is the brightest off season and the closest thing we've had to surefire in a long, long while.

07-20-2017, 10:36 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. 7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense. Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns. Are you serious? Drafting the top CB in the entire draft. (Lattimore) Getting back our top two CB's that were both gone by the second game of the season. (Breaux, Williams) Adding a ball hawking safety in the 2nd round of the draft. (Williams) Getting our #1 DT draft pick back from missing half the season with a broken leg. (Rankins) Adding quality depth through free agency in the LB corps. (Klein, Te'o) Adding a quality LB through the draft. (Anzalone) Adding an edge rusher at DE. (Okafor) And most importantly ... Getting rid of stagnant coaching at D-Line and LB and adding two outstanding coaches for those major units (Nielsen, Nolan) SaintFanInATLHELL, RailBoss, jlouhill and 2 others like this.
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07-20-2017, 09:51 AM	#1
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by spkb25 everybody Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. 7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense. Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

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