Whose our biggest threat in the division?

foreverfan · 07-20-2017, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

everybody

End of conversation.

The real question is who is going to win on the fan fight on this board.

gulfgambler · 07-20-2017, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

everybody

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.
7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense.
Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded
if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

K Major · 07-20-2017, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.

Gulf,

No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-20-2017, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.

Originally Posted by K Major

Gulf,

No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example.

The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown.

It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up.

The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place.

Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September.

SFIAH

Seer1 · 07-20-2017, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example.

The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown.

It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up.

The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place.

Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September.

SFIAH

The only surefire anything is whatever you're looking at in the rear view mirror. Compare this year to the year, say Sean was suspended, we threw our second round pick at SLB, the years we kept the same crappy LB and special teams coach, etc... This is the brightest off season and the closest thing we've had to surefire in a long, long while.

AsylumGuido · 07-20-2017, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Agreed!

Don't see any changes made that will improve this D.
7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense.
Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded
if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

Are you serious?

Drafting the top CB in the entire draft. (Lattimore)
Getting back our top two CB's that were both gone by the second game of the season. (Breaux, Williams)
Adding a ball hawking safety in the 2nd round of the draft. (Williams)
Getting our #1 DT draft pick back from missing half the season with a broken leg. (Rankins)
Adding quality depth through free agency in the LB corps. (Klein, Te'o)
Adding a quality LB through the draft. (Anzalone)
Adding an edge rusher at DE. (Okafor)

And most importantly ...

Getting rid of stagnant coaching at D-Line and LB and adding two outstanding coaches for those major units (Nielsen, Nolan)

Seer1 · 07-19-2017, 04:26 PM

Our D is our biggest threat. They play well and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-19-2017, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Our D is our biggest threat. They play average and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem.

FIFY

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 07-19-2017, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

FIFY

SFIAH

That's what keeps me so optimistic.

WillSaints81 · 07-20-2017, 12:25 AM

It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB.

Note that we have a back to back home game against them after playing Chicago. If we, as expected, beat up on Chicago, then we face the possibility of getting caught off guard by them. When we play Carolina, Carolina is on a back to back home game against us after playing Buffalo and then has a back to back on the road against us after playing the jets. Atlanta will be facing TB and Minnesota before us on short rest. If we can win that game, we could sweep actually, as Atlanta has to go to TB on MNF the week before going to our place. They will have five days rest therefore and we will be at home back to back after the jets, which with two b2b opportunities and both ends featuring division rivals we cannot squander both situations and Atlanta's five days rest helps.

07-20-2017, 09:51 AM	#2
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by spkb25 everybody Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. 7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense. Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns.

07-20-2017, 10:02 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. Gulf, No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D?

07-20-2017, 10:22 AM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. Originally Posted by K Major Gulf, No changes made in 2017 that will improve the D? I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example. The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown. It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up. The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place. Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September. SFIAH
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07-20-2017, 11:29 AM	#5
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I read this as no surefire changes, like draftling Myles Garrett for example. The 2017 Saints defense is an unknown. One week before training camp, the impact of new coaching, free agents, draftees, players returning from IR, or even just being the 2nd year of the same system is unknown. It's the promise and challenge of every season. Go back and read the pre training camp posts before the 2009 season. Or the 2013 season. The same questions and same uncertainty come up. The one thing we can be sure of is that the defense is going to be different because some of the longstanding pieces (coaches) are no longer in place. Let hope with that change and with a injury free training camp we get a chance to see the promise in September. SFIAH The only surefire anything is whatever you're looking at in the rear view mirror. Compare this year to the year, say Sean was suspended, we threw our second round pick at SLB, the years we kept the same crappy LB and special teams coach, etc... This is the brightest off season and the closest thing we've had to surefire in a long, long while.

07-20-2017, 10:36 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by gulfgambler Agreed! Don't see any changes made that will improve this D. 7-9 three seasons straight, did not occur because of offense. Could only imagine the numbers yds/tds this defense would have yielded if playing w/ offense like Texans, Jets, Browns. Are you serious? Drafting the top CB in the entire draft. (Lattimore) Getting back our top two CB's that were both gone by the second game of the season. (Breaux, Williams) Adding a ball hawking safety in the 2nd round of the draft. (Williams) Getting our #1 DT draft pick back from missing half the season with a broken leg. (Rankins) Adding quality depth through free agency in the LB corps. (Klein, Te'o) Adding a quality LB through the draft. (Anzalone) Adding an edge rusher at DE. (Okafor) And most importantly ... Getting rid of stagnant coaching at D-Line and LB and adding two outstanding coaches for those major units (Nielsen, Nolan) SaintFanInATLHELL, RailBoss, jlouhill and 2 others like this.
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07-20-2017, 08:13 AM	#1
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by spkb25 everybody End of conversation. The real question is who is going to win on the fan fight on this board.

07-19-2017, 04:26 PM	#7
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Our D is our biggest threat. They play well and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem.

07-19-2017, 04:36 PM	#8
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by Seer1 Our D is our biggest threat. They play average and we'll put everyone else to bed, no problem. FIFY SFIAH saintsfan1976, AsylumGuido and Seer1 like this.

07-19-2017, 04:42 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,677	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL FIFY SFIAH That's what keeps me so optimistic.

07-20-2017, 12:25 AM	#10
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Whose our biggest threat in the division? It's not going to be Atlanta. It is going to be TB. Note that we have a back to back home game against them after playing Chicago. If we, as expected, beat up on Chicago, then we face the possibility of getting caught off guard by them. When we play Carolina, Carolina is on a back to back home game against us after playing Buffalo and then has a back to back on the road against us after playing the jets. Atlanta will be facing TB and Minnesota before us on short rest. If we can win that game, we could sweep actually, as Atlanta has to go to TB on MNF the week before going to our place. They will have five days rest therefore and we will be at home back to back after the jets, which with two b2b opportunities and both ends featuring division rivals we cannot squander both situations and Atlanta's five days rest helps.

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