2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

jeanpierre · 07-30-2017, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And why can't I remember? I had totally forgot about him. He came in last year right?

Who Dat, Dude?

jeanpierre · 07-30-2017, 07:43 PM

Brandon Coleman has been impressive to start camp. He got behind the defense once again to catch a deep post for a touchdown. However, Brees would have been sacked by Cam Jordan on the play. In a later drill, Coleman took a quick slant from Chase Daniel and raced 60-plus yards to the house.

Take Five: Other Observations

Veteran rest days for Zach Strief and Adrian Peterson. Manti Te’o also had the day off as the team continues to monitor his reps stemming from last year’s injury.

I’m not sure what’s going on with reserve center Jack Allen. He’s really struggled with bad snaps in every single practice of camp.

Ginn put a ridiculous fake on Williams during individual drills. The problem was Ginn bobbled the pass which allowed Williams to recover and knock the ball away. Ginn has always had inconsistent hands; they’ve shown up through these first few days of camp.

Damian Swann and DeVante Harris both had sacks off corner blitzes.

Wil Lutz hit a 53-yard field goal.

The Dude · 07-30-2017, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Who Dat, Dude?

Fuller. I don't remember anything about him.

jeanpierre · 07-30-2017, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Fuller. I don't remember anything about him.

Yep, end of last season he came on; he's still needs some maturation and discipline, but he's definitely got the physical ability to be good...

The Dude · 07-30-2017, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yep, end of last season he came on; he's still needs some maturation and discipline, but he's definitely got the physical ability to be good...

Hell, he is sure showing up this year. Dare I say that Thomas and Snead are the only locks? Seems like Fuller is beating out Ginn at this point. Can Fuller contribute on special teams?

The Dude · 07-30-2017, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

We won't know much about this team until we see them against other teams in preseason and even then we won't know much until it counts. Talk with me week 4 or 5. That said we have some play makers and I'd say we have more talent than the last few years. Oline is a possible strength and hopefully Unger is back sooner than later.

Read Duncan said we are not getting much disruption and pressure minus Cam Jordan, only day 4 but that's not going to get it done.

I always say by week 4 you have what you are going to have. If a team doesn't have an identity by then, they won't have much of one. By week four you should know your teams potential.
I think that's when we will get a good read as to weather or not Payton will be back.

spkb25 · 07-30-2017, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We have that every year. Is our defense any closer to stopping it?

No, we haven't had a good rec. out of backfield since sproles. Our line has been lacking for a few years. They started to get a little better last year because Jhari had a solid season, but (I have been saying this for awhile) this could be the best offense we have fielded since '11

Just because we put up a ton of crap time yards or Drew is able to make the oline look better than they are, we haven't had the type of offense this group has the potential to be since '11

ChrisXVI · 07-30-2017, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

No, we haven't had a good rec. out of backfield since sproles. Our line has been lacking for a few years. They started to get a little better last year because Jhari had a solid season, but (I have been saying this for awhile) this could be the best offense we have fielded since '11

Just because we put up a ton of crap time yards or Drew is able to make the oline look better than they are, we haven't had the type of offense this group has the potential to be since '11

The offense always makes it work. That's the point. I'm not worried about that. Our defense is very much a work in progress still.

spkb25 · 07-30-2017, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

The offense always makes it work. That's the point. I'm not worried about that. Our defense is very much a work in progress still.

Oh yeah, certainly the more worrisome side of the ball.

WillMacKenzie · 07-30-2017, 09:06 PM

Meanwhile, Matt Ryan and co. are full-steam-ahead embracing the suck

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by The Dude And why can't I remember? I had totally forgot about him. He came in last year right? Who Dat, Dude?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Twitter Brandon Coleman has been impressive to start camp. He got behind the defense once again to catch a deep post for a touchdown. However, Brees would have been sacked by Cam Jordan on the play. In a later drill, Coleman took a quick slant from Chase Daniel and raced 60-plus yards to the house. Take Five: Other Observations *Veteran rest days for Zach Strief and Adrian Peterson. Manti Te’o also had the day off as the team continues to monitor his reps stemming from last year’s injury.* *I’m not sure what’s going on with reserve center Jack Allen. He’s really struggled with bad snaps in every single practice of camp.* Ginn put a ridiculous fake on Williams during individual drills. The problem was Ginn bobbled the pass which allowed Williams to recover and knock the ball away. Ginn has always had inconsistent hands; they’ve shown up through these first few days of camp. *Damian Swann and DeVante Harris both had sacks off corner blitzes.* *Wil Lutz hit a 53-yard field goal.*
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by The Dude Fuller. I don't remember anything about him. Yep, end of last season he came on; he's still needs some maturation and discipline, but he's definitely got the physical ability to be good...

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by spkb25 We won't know much about this team until we see them against other teams in preseason and even then we won't know much until it counts. Talk with me week 4 or 5. That said we have some play makers and I'd say we have more talent than the last few years. Oline is a possible strength and hopefully Unger is back sooner than later. Read Duncan said we are not getting much disruption and pressure minus Cam Jordan, only day 4 but that's not going to get it done. I always say by week 4 you have what you are going to have. If a team doesn't have an identity by then, they won't have much of one. By week four you should know your teams potential. I think that's when we will get a good read as to weather or not Payton will be back.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We have that every year. Is our defense any closer to stopping it? No, we haven't had a good rec. out of backfield since sproles. Our line has been lacking for a few years. They started to get a little better last year because Jhari had a solid season, but (I have been saying this for awhile) this could be the best offense we have fielded since '11 Just because we put up a ton of crap time yards or Drew is able to make the oline look better than they are, we haven't had the type of offense this group has the potential to be since '11 The Dude likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by spkb25 No, we haven't had a good rec. out of backfield since sproles. Our line has been lacking for a few years. They started to get a little better last year because Jhari had a solid season, but (I have been saying this for awhile) this could be the best offense we have fielded since '11 Just because we put up a ton of crap time yards or Drew is able to make the oline look better than they are, we haven't had the type of offense this group has the potential to be since '11 The offense always makes it work. That's the point. I'm not worried about that. Our defense is very much a work in progress still.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by ChrisXVI The offense always makes it work. That's the point. I'm not worried about that. Our defense is very much a work in progress still. Oh yeah, certainly the more worrisome side of the ball.

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