2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp

ChrisXVI · 08-11-2017, 04:58 PM

I remember last year when we signed Fleener and everyone said it was a terrible contract and we'd be disappointed. Man we fought back and tried to dig up any little stat we could to show he didn't drop passes like people said. Then the season starts and there's a big wuss out there at TE not making catches in the crucial moments.

Get used to it with Ginn folks... This is who he is and it won't magically be solved just because he's in black and gold now.

spkb25 · 08-11-2017, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I remember last year when we signed Fleener and everyone said it was a terrible contract and we'd be disappointed. Man we fought back and tried to dig up any little stat we could to show he didn't drop passes like people said. Then the season starts and there's a big wuss out there at TE not making catches in the crucial moments.

Get used to it with Ginn folks... This is who he is and it won't magically be solved just because he's in black and gold now.

That's a good example because I was one of the dummies trying to be like I don't think he drops lots of passes....I feel like a fool

halloween 65 · 08-11-2017, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I remember last year when we signed Fleener and everyone said it was a terrible contract and we'd be disappointed. Man we fought back and tried to dig up any little stat we could to show he didn't drop passes like people said. Then the season starts and there's a big wuss out there at TE not making catches in the crucial moments.

Get used to it with Ginn folks... This is who he is and it won't magically be solved just because he's in black and gold now.

Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly.

spkb25 · 08-11-2017, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly.

Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller

halloween 65 · 08-11-2017, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller

Wishful thinking spike. I like Tommy also but Payton want cut Ginn because he brought him in.

spkb25 · 08-11-2017, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Wishful thinking spike. I like Tommy also but Payton want cut Ginn because he brought him in.

I know...sad too

The Dude · 08-11-2017, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller

That's what was saying. We already have Fleener. We don't need two. Lewis impresses the **** out of me

hagan714 · 08-11-2017, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly.

OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility

Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years.

Then there is

Nick Fairley 4/$28 million
Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million

I still can think of better ways to spend that money

2 for 1
Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million

or 3/2
Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million
Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million

and have 3+ million in cap space left

Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million

best laid plans of mice and men.

spkb25 · 08-11-2017, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility

Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years.

Then there is

Nick Fairley 4/$28 million
Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million

I still can think of better ways to spend that money

2 for 1
Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million

or 3/2
Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million
Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million

and have 3+ million in cap space left

Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million

best laid plans of mice and men.

If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

Utah_Saint · 08-11-2017, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

Well, the Bills are going on 17 years, the Browns are going on 14 years, the Rams are going on 12 years, the Jags and the Bucs are going on 9 years, Titans are going on 8 years...

08-11-2017, 04:58 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp I remember last year when we signed Fleener and everyone said it was a terrible contract and we'd be disappointed. Man we fought back and tried to dig up any little stat we could to show he didn't drop passes like people said. Then the season starts and there's a big wuss out there at TE not making catches in the crucial moments. Get used to it with Ginn folks... This is who he is and it won't magically be solved just because he's in black and gold now.

08-11-2017, 05:29 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I remember last year when we signed Fleener and everyone said it was a terrible contract and we'd be disappointed. Man we fought back and tried to dig up any little stat we could to show he didn't drop passes like people said. Then the season starts and there's a big wuss out there at TE not making catches in the crucial moments. Get used to it with Ginn folks... This is who he is and it won't magically be solved just because he's in black and gold now. That's a good example because I was one of the dummies trying to be like I don't think he drops lots of passes....I feel like a fool

08-11-2017, 05:30 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I remember last year when we signed Fleener and everyone said it was a terrible contract and we'd be disappointed. Man we fought back and tried to dig up any little stat we could to show he didn't drop passes like people said. Then the season starts and there's a big wuss out there at TE not making catches in the crucial moments. Get used to it with Ginn folks... This is who he is and it won't magically be solved just because he's in black and gold now. Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly.

08-11-2017, 05:31 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by halloween 65 Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly. Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller

08-11-2017, 05:34 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by spkb25 Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller Wishful thinking spike. I like Tommy also but Payton want cut Ginn because he brought him in.

08-11-2017, 05:48 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by halloween 65 Wishful thinking spike. I like Tommy also but Payton want cut Ginn because he brought him in. I know...sad too

08-11-2017, 10:52 PM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,065	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by spkb25 Can we at least cut Ginn and keep TLL? Cause Tommy is a baller That's what was saying. We already have Fleener. We don't need two. Lewis impresses the **** out of me
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08-11-2017, 09:33 PM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by halloween 65 Now we have Fleener and Ginn with stone hands and both are starters with Brees throwing to them, not to mention the D we have. Payton might have finally lost his mind. Hope this works out if not it's going to get ugly. OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years. Then there is Nick Fairley 4/$28 million Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million I still can think of better ways to spend that money 2 for 1 Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million or 3/2 Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million and have 3+ million in cap space left Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million best laid plans of mice and men.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

08-11-2017, 11:09 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by hagan714 OJ Howard was my answer for Fleener and that god awful contract. I always look at the impact a drafted player has to our cap flexibility Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap thats 5 million in cap space we passed up in the next two years. Then there is Nick Fairley 4/$28 million Tedd Ginn 3/$11 million I still can think of better ways to spend that money 2 for 1 Johnathan Hankins 3/$30 million or 3/2 Lawrence Guy 4/$13 million Rex Burkhead 1/$3 million and have 3+ million in cap space left Duron Harmon signed a 4/$17 million best laid plans of mice and men. If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take.

08-11-2017, 11:39 PM	#10
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Training Camp Originally Posted by spkb25 If we suck again this year Sean is on his way out. There's no excuses left. You're three years into rebuilding, how long does it take. Well, the Bills are going on 17 years, the Browns are going on 14 years, the Rams are going on 12 years, the Jags and the Bucs are going on 9 years, Titans are going on 8 years...

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