Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :)

Tobias-Reiper · 07-31-2017, 03:00 PM

Report: Chargers tell Rivers, Gates not to go to Tomlinson ceremony | ProFootballTalk

I get that this Saturday practice is the first open practice in the Chargers' new home, but not letting your 2 star players go to a once-in-a-lifetime event for their teammate, that is just short sided. No football fan will resent not seeing those 2 at one practice because they attended Tomlinson's induction, and surely the new coach is not making any fans in the locker room.

Besides, what can he possibly do to enforce this? Bench them? Cut them?

On a side note, as good as Tomlinson was, I will never refer to him as LT. There 's only 1 LT. And get off my lawn.

Crusader · 07-31-2017, 04:32 PM

I hope he gets the opportunity to. That sounds really really stupid even by Charger standards.

hagan714 · 07-31-2017, 05:26 PM

stupid move by the chargers

neugey · 07-31-2017, 05:52 PM

I blame the NFL. Maybe they actually should have the HOF presentation before camps open. Seriously, a 6-month off-season and this is best they can do? The act of whoring out the first preseason game during the HOF event weekend is getting *old*.

AsylumGuido · 08-01-2017, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

I hope he gets the opportunity to. That sounds really really stupid even by Charger standards.

Originally Posted by hagan714

stupid move by the chargers

The Chargers are not preventing Rivers and Gates from attending. Rivers said he decided not to go and that his place is with his team at their dual practice with the Rams. Once again, this was the press putting something false out there based upon supposition only and a lazy public for not researching it more on their own.

"I've talked to Philip. I've talked to Antonio. I've even talked to LT. We're all on the same page," Lynn said. " At the end of the day, we're going to make the best decision for our football team, and that's it."

With the practice taking place at the same time as the Hall of Fame ceremony in Canton, Ohio, Rivers and Gates would be unable attend both. Another one of Tomlinson's teammates, Drew Brees, plans to fly to the enshrinement after the New Orleans Saints’ practice, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-01-2017, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Chargers are not preventing Rivers and Gates from attending. Rivers said he decided not to go and that his place is with his team at their dual practice with the Rams. Once again, this was the press putting something false out there based upon supposition only and a lazy public for not researching it more on their own.

What makes it false? And thank you for calling me "lazy public". Always a pleasure talking to you.

Look, the reality is, neither you nor I knows exactly what was said or the time line of what was said and when. We have a report that says they were being blocked from going, then we have and update in the original article (an update which I read before posting this, BTW)in which the coach says he "talked to them", and according to you, apparently some alleged retractions by Rivers.

Do you know for a fact that Lynn never told Rivers or Gates "you can't go"?
Of course you don't.

Could it be there is some spin after the fact by Lynn to make it sound like a joint decision to save face?
Of course it could.

Could it be someone overheard something out of context?
Of course it could.

Could it be someone made the whole thing up?
Sure.

In the end, if you don't know for a fact what was said, you don't get to shriek "fake news" and be condescending to people.

AsylumGuido · 08-01-2017, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

What makes it false? And thank you for calling me "lazy public". Always a pleasure talking to you.

Look, the reality is, neither you nor I knows exactly what was said or the time line of what was said and when. We have a report that says they were being blocked from going, then we have and update in the original article (an update which I read before posting this, BTW)in which the coach says he "talked to them", and according to you, apparently some alleged retractions by Rivers.

Do you know for a fact that Lynn never told Rivers or Gates "you can't go"?
Of course you don't.

Could it be there is some spin after the fact by Lynn to make it sound like a joint decision to save face?
Of course it could.

Could it be someone overheard something out of context?
Of course it could.

Could it be someone made the whole thing up?
Sure.

In the end, if you don't know for a fact what was said, you don't get to shriek "fake news" and be condescending to people.

Sorry that you counted yourself among the lazy public.

But, I believe what Rivers said himself and Gates is still considering going to the ceremony.

Anthony Lynn: I haven’t blocked anyone from going to Tomlinson ceremony

A report from Alex Marvez of Sporting News on Monday indicated that Chargers coach Anthony Lynn told quarterback Philip Rivers and tight end Antonio Gates that they had to be at Saturday’s training camp practice rather than travel to Canton to see former teammate LaDainian Tomlinson inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Lynn disputed that report later in the day. He said he has not blocked any player from going and that final decisions are still pending.

“I’ve talked to Philip. I’ve talked to Antonio. I’ve even talked to LT. We’re all on the same page,” Lynn said, via USA Today. “At the end of the day, we’re going to make the best decision for our football team, and that’s it.”

Per Marvez’s initial report, Gates is still considering going to see Tomlinson but Rivers told Alex Flanagan of NFL Media that he will not go to Canton.

Rivers said that it was his choice rather than Lynn blocking him from going, although Lynn did say he wanted Rivers to be at Saturday’s session. The practice is being held at the StubHub Center, which will be the Chargers’ home for a few years, and is a joint session with the Rams, who will be joining them in a forthcoming stadium.

The whole point I was making is that the majority of the public read one headline and take it as fact without doing a little research on their own to find out the truth. That is being lazy.

I heard Rivers say himself the decision was all his on NFL Radio. I also knew he said the same thing to Alex Flanagan personally.

Once again, I was NOT being condescending, but was simply pointing out the facts. If you choose to lump yourself in with the lazy public that's your problem, not mine.

jeanpierre · 08-01-2017, 10:24 AM

Are we talking Saints or Chargers?

AsylumGuido · 08-01-2017, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Are we talking Saints or Chargers?

He's talking Chargers but used Brees I guess as a tie in to this forum.

Tobias-Reiper · 08-01-2017, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sorry that you counted yourself among the lazy public.

At least have the decency of.. oh, never mind.

07-31-2017, 03:00 PM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :) Report: Chargers tell Rivers, Gates not to go to Tomlinson ceremony \| ProFootballTalk I get that this Saturday practice is the first open practice in the Chargers' new home, but not letting your 2 star players go to a once-in-a-lifetime event for their teammate, that is just short sided. No football fan will resent not seeing those 2 at one practice because they attended Tomlinson's induction, and surely the new coach is not making any fans in the locker room. Besides, what can he possibly do to enforce this? Bench them? Cut them? On a side note, as good as Tomlinson was, I will never refer to him as LT. There 's only 1 LT. And get off my lawn. jnormand, spkb25, QBREES9 and 2 others like this.
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07-31-2017, 04:32 PM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Re: Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :) I hope he gets the opportunity to. That sounds really really stupid even by Charger standards.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,045	Re: Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :) Originally Posted by Crusader I hope he gets the opportunity to. That sounds really really stupid even by Charger standards. Originally Posted by hagan714 stupid move by the chargers The Chargers are not preventing Rivers and Gates from attending. Rivers said he decided not to go and that his place is with his team at their dual practice with the Rams. Once again, this was the press putting something false out there based upon supposition only and a lazy public for not researching it more on their own. "I've talked to Philip. I've talked to Antonio. I've even talked to LT. We're all on the same page," Lynn said. " At the end of the day, we're going to make the best decision for our football team, and that's it." With the practice taking place at the same time as the Hall of Fame ceremony in Canton, Ohio, Rivers and Gates would be unable attend both. Another one of Tomlinson's teammates, Drew Brees, plans to fly to the enshrinement after the New Orleans Saints’ practice, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. 73Saint likes this.

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08-01-2017, 09:31 AM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Chargers are not preventing Rivers and Gates from attending. Rivers said he decided not to go and that his place is with his team at their dual practice with the Rams. Once again, this was the press putting something false out there based upon supposition only and a lazy public for not researching it more on their own. What makes it false? And thank you for calling me "lazy public". Always a pleasure talking to you. Look, the reality is, neither you nor I knows exactly what was said or the time line of what was said and when. We have a report that says they were being blocked from going, then we have and update in the original article (an update which I read before posting this, BTW)in which the coach says he "talked to them", and according to you, apparently some alleged retractions by Rivers. Do you know for a fact that Lynn never told Rivers or Gates "you can't go"? Of course you don't. Could it be there is some spin after the fact by Lynn to make it sound like a joint decision to save face? Of course it could. Could it be someone overheard something out of context? Of course it could. Could it be someone made the whole thing up? Sure. In the end, if you don't know for a fact what was said, you don't get to shriek "fake news" and be condescending to people.
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08-01-2017, 09:55 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,045	Re: Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :) Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper What makes it false? And thank you for calling me "lazy public". Always a pleasure talking to you. Look, the reality is, neither you nor I knows exactly what was said or the time line of what was said and when. We have a report that says they were being blocked from going, then we have and update in the original article (an update which I read before posting this, BTW)in which the coach says he "talked to them", and according to you, apparently some alleged retractions by Rivers. Do you know for a fact that Lynn never told Rivers or Gates "you can't go"? Of course you don't. Could it be there is some spin after the fact by Lynn to make it sound like a joint decision to save face? Of course it could. Could it be someone overheard something out of context? Of course it could. Could it be someone made the whole thing up? Sure. In the end, if you don't know for a fact what was said, you don't get to shriek "fake news" and be condescending to people. Sorry that you counted yourself among the lazy public. But, I believe what Rivers said himself and Gates is still considering going to the ceremony. Anthony Lynn: I haven’t blocked anyone from going to Tomlinson ceremony A report from Alex Marvez of Sporting News on Monday indicated that Chargers coach Anthony Lynn told quarterback Philip Rivers and tight end Antonio Gates that they had to be at Saturday’s training camp practice rather than travel to Canton to see former teammate LaDainian Tomlinson inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Lynn disputed that report later in the day. He said he has not blocked any player from going and that final decisions are still pending. “I’ve talked to Philip. I’ve talked to Antonio. I’ve even talked to LT. We’re all on the same page,” Lynn said, via USA Today. “At the end of the day, we’re going to make the best decision for our football team, and that’s it.” Per Marvez’s initial report, Gates is still considering going to see Tomlinson but Rivers told Alex Flanagan of NFL Media that he will not go to Canton. Rivers said that it was his choice rather than Lynn blocking him from going, although Lynn did say he wanted Rivers to be at Saturday’s session. The practice is being held at the StubHub Center, which will be the Chargers’ home for a few years, and is a joint session with the Rams, who will be joining them in a forthcoming stadium. The whole point I was making is that the majority of the public read one headline and take it as fact without doing a little research on their own to find out the truth. That is being lazy. I heard Rivers say himself the decision was all his on NFL Radio. I also knew he said the same thing to Alex Flanagan personally. Once again, I was NOT being condescending, but was simply pointing out the facts. If you choose to lump yourself in with the lazy public that's your problem, not mine.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,045	Re: Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Are we talking Saints or Chargers? He's talking Chargers but used Brees I guess as a tie in to this forum.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Is Brees going to Tomlinson's induction? Because neither Rivers or Gates can :) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sorry that you counted yourself among the lazy public. At least have the decency of.. oh, never mind.