The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16

spkb25 · 08-09-2017, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I think it very much matters. Especially for the veterans who have had to look slow starts trying to dig out of an 0-4 start. At this point a win of any kind will help moral. Do you play to win to the point of risking injury? Hell no, but they need the taste of losing out of their mouths.

Yeah, and the thing is how you look. I mean we looked like a keystone cops act last preseason. Of course you had the normal "I am smarter than you" poster chastising people for being concerned, but yes how we look absolutely matters.

spkb25 · 08-09-2017, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Winning begets winning! Winning is a habit! A winning team is talented enough to win and has the coaching to win. But it all starts in preseason. Putting all the players in a position to win is what good coaches do. That is what I'm looking for Thursday night. If we lose the game but play well then I'm fine. Just give me a good showing from the backups and a high energy performance from start to finish.

I want to see results.......points don't matter now.

Edit: Game film baby!

yes it does Rugby. 06 we built a winning attitude through winning. That is why sometimes getting on a roll with wins can be extremely important

spkb25 · 08-09-2017, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Exactly. Preseason shows me plenty.

Want to see our guys engaged, enthused, and efficient. Not sloppy and disorganized.

Seer1 · 08-09-2017, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

No, but I still have a VCR

I thought the government or some corporation (same diff) confiscated all of those.

The Dude · 08-09-2017, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Yeah, and the thing is how you look. I mean we looked like a keystone cops act last preseason. Of course you had the normal "I am smarter than you" poster chastising people for being concerned, but yes how we look absolutely matters.

I want to see players knowing where they are supposed to be and some sort of cohesion. Just don't make stupid mistakes and I'll be happy. Hopefully we will see improvement from game to game throughout the preseason. The last two years it was nothing. Hopefully the players like Crowley who are having a great camp will continue to shine on the field.

I also don't want to see any more dead money.

spkb25 · 08-09-2017, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I want to see players knowing where they are supposed to be and some sort of cohesion. Just don't make stupid mistakes and I'll be happy. Hopefully we will see improvement from game to game throughout the preseason. The last two years it was nothing. Hopefully the players like Crowley who are having a great camp will continue to shine on the field.

I also don't want to see any more dead money.

Absolutely. That is exactly what to am hoping to see.

neugey · 08-09-2017, 08:42 PM

I'm hoping the assistant coaching changes have helped and our depth players are playing better because of it. Need to notch a win or two in preseason or it's a bad sign. A lot of the players in the game are playing for a spot on the team so there is no excuse not to go hard.

Utah_Saint · 08-09-2017, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I was in the stands that same game, Utah! It was the first time to wear my brand new Drew Brees jersey. I still wear the same jersey every game.

That was a tough night to be a Saints fan. After seeing that game, I was convinced we wouldn't win 4 games that season.

pherein · 08-09-2017, 11:40 PM

in some way winning preseason games doesn't show the talent, but shows our depth and coaching.

SmashMouth · 08-09-2017, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^^^^^^^^^. Building confidence and implant a sense of winning. A relatively young team (on both sides of the ball) need to develop trust & belief. We cannot let Osweiler slang the ball up and down the field on us.

Circle back to that magical 2009 pre season ... We were dominating teams in pre season. I agree, this team needs to win early, even in pre season.

I love 50 burgers.... can we go back to that this year?

08-09-2017, 04:23 PM	#21
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by The Dude I think it very much matters. Especially for the veterans who have had to look slow starts trying to dig out of an 0-4 start. At this point a win of any kind will help moral. Do you play to win to the point of risking injury? Hell no, but they need the taste of losing out of their mouths. Yeah, and the thing is how you look. I mean we looked like a keystone cops act last preseason. Of course you had the normal "I am smarter than you" poster chastising people for being concerned, but yes how we look absolutely matters.

08-09-2017, 04:24 PM	#22
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Winning begets winning! Winning is a habit! A winning team is talented enough to win and has the coaching to win. But it all starts in preseason. Putting all the players in a position to win is what good coaches do. That is what I'm looking for Thursday night. If we lose the game but play well then I'm fine. Just give me a good showing from the backups and a high energy performance from start to finish. I want to see results.......points don't matter now. Edit: Game film baby! yes it does Rugby. 06 we built a winning attitude through winning. That is why sometimes getting on a roll with wins can be extremely important

08-09-2017, 04:26 PM	#23
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by rezburna Exactly. Preseason shows me plenty. Want to see our guys engaged, enthused, and efficient. Not sloppy and disorganized.

08-09-2017, 06:58 PM	#24
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo No, but I still have a VCR I thought the government or some corporation (same diff) confiscated all of those. Barry from MS and Papa Voodoo like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by spkb25 Yeah, and the thing is how you look. I mean we looked like a keystone cops act last preseason. Of course you had the normal "I am smarter than you" poster chastising people for being concerned, but yes how we look absolutely matters. I want to see players knowing where they are supposed to be and some sort of cohesion. Just don't make stupid mistakes and I'll be happy. Hopefully we will see improvement from game to game throughout the preseason. The last two years it was nothing. Hopefully the players like Crowley who are having a great camp will continue to shine on the field. I also don't want to see any more dead money. spkb25 likes this.
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08-09-2017, 07:47 PM	#26
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by The Dude I want to see players knowing where they are supposed to be and some sort of cohesion. Just don't make stupid mistakes and I'll be happy. Hopefully we will see improvement from game to game throughout the preseason. The last two years it was nothing. Hopefully the players like Crowley who are having a great camp will continue to shine on the field. I also don't want to see any more dead money. Absolutely. That is exactly what to am hoping to see.

08-09-2017, 08:42 PM	#27
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,687 Blog Entries: 13	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 I'm hoping the assistant coaching changes have helped and our depth players are playing better because of it. Need to notch a win or two in preseason or it's a bad sign. A lot of the players in the game are playing for a spot on the team so there is no excuse not to go hard. spkb25, Barry from MS and The Dude like this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I was in the stands that same game, Utah! It was the first time to wear my brand new Drew Brees jersey. I still wear the same jersey every game. That was a tough night to be a Saints fan. After seeing that game, I was convinced we wouldn't win 4 games that season.

08-09-2017, 11:40 PM	#29
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 in some way winning preseason games doesn't show the talent, but shows our depth and coaching. Seer1 likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,090 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The Saints did not win a single preseason game in '15 or '16 Originally Posted by K Major ^^^^^^^^^^^. Building confidence and implant a sense of winning. A relatively young team (on both sides of the ball) need to develop trust & belief. We cannot let Osweiler slang the ball up and down the field on us. Circle back to that magical 2009 pre season ... We were dominating teams in pre season. I agree, this team needs to win early, even in pre season. I love 50 burgers.... can we go back to that this year? K Major likes this.

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