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44Champs 08-30-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie (Post 761646)
Ginn will break Curtis Johnson, lol joking of course...maybe

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SaintGnome 08-30-2017 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 761204)
He has more on the line than anyone else so I could see him throwing caution to the wind to make insane grabs. This is his shot to get a deal all or nothing. Jerry Rice was slow as dirt. It can be done.

I think Steve Largent is a better example for you. HoF receiver without too much speed.

QBREES9 09-01-2017 09:13 AM

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I don't know how i feel about Ginn. I guess it wait and see. I know i think Willie Snead is GREAT!!

WillSaints81 09-01-2017 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 761229)
Depends on how you define your #2. Snead's not a redzone target like Thomas or a threat to score from anywhere on the field like Cooks was but he's a great possession receiver. He's the go to guy when you need a first down. Think of a Julian Edleman type role.

He had a 69% catch percentage, which is outstanding.

Cooks got a first down 38% of the times he was targeted. By comparison Snead got a first down 49% of the times he was targeted.

Cooks got targeted 13 more times than Snead but Snead made 6 more first downs.

If you look at all Snead's stats for last season, he had great numbers for a #2 and he was the third option. Most teams would've loved to get those numbers from their #2 receiver.

Touchdowns get all the glory but you also gotta have someone you can count on to move the chains.

Comparing Cooks incompletions to Snead's is comparing apples to oranges.

Utah_Saint 09-01-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 762015)
Comparing Cooks incompletions to Snead's is comparing apples to oranges.

I didn't compare incompletions. I compared 1st down %. I was showing that Snead has been an outstanding possession receiver when it comes to getting first downs and extending drives. My point being, Snead is an excellent #2 receiver. His stats as the third option were better that most team's second option.

Both receivers have good completion percentages. Cooks 66.6%, Snead 69.4% last season.

I'm curious though, why would you say it's comparing apples to oranges?

WillSaints81 09-04-2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 762027)
I didn't compare incompletions. I compared 1st down %. I was showing that Snead has been an outstanding possession receiver when it comes to getting first downs and extending drives. My point being, Snead is an excellent #2 receiver. His stats as the third option were better that most team's second option.

Both receivers have good completion percentages. Cooks 66.6%, Snead 69.4% last season.

I'm curious though, why would you say it's comparing apples to oranges?

Because Cooks was not a possession receiver and many of us thought he would be good in the slot over Colston in 2015. The saints just would not use him in that manner. I'm not sure, was Snead on the field with Colston in 2015 in plays or did they rotate?

jeanpierre 09-04-2017 10:28 PM

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I'd consider Snead better than Ginn, as Snead can, you know, actually receive the pass...

Ginn reminds of Featherstone, Texas State...



Beastmode 09-04-2017 10:44 PM

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Cooks was not good for much. Really could not use him for anything else but stretching the field for some reason. I bet he doesn't even sniff 1K yards this year.

jeanpierre 09-04-2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 762574)
Cooks was not good for much. Really could not use him for anything else but stretching the field for some reason. I bet he doesn't even sniff 1K yards this year.

I'd consider taking that bet and here's why, Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski and no Julian Edelman (IR) in the NFC East...

Beastmode 09-04-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 762575)
I'd consider taking that bet and here's why, Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski and no Julian Edelman (IR) in the NFC East...

They got several other WR's. Edelman hardly ever scored. Cooks is tapped for about 700 yards and almost no TDs with Gronk.


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