Somehow I don't think we are done

jnormand · 09-20-2017, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

According to some all is already lost. The season is over. We are horrible. Why even watch? Fire everyone. Hope that Benson dies, perhaps, so things get better. We'll get killed every week. Worst ever.

Why watch? Go somewhere else and pick frickin' daisies.

I am here to battle with my team every week.

Not pointing this to you, Utah. Just sayin'

Sad state of affairs with sad fans.

I won't knock you for your hope. I'm the same way. I'm simply saying there's no reason to hammer others who've lost some hope after these last two games. They were terrible. To say anything more is ridiculous.

But I sincerely hope this team gets it together. Because right now they look like ****. Again, to say anything else is ridiculous.

jnormand · 09-20-2017, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm not waiting until next year. We are two games into 16 having faced perhaps our two toughest opponents.

I honestly feel that the toughest opponent for the Saints is the Saints.

They have the talent to beat anyone and have come up short.

They have lost their way. Be it by coaching, players, scheme, or whatever.

They have to find a way to stop beating themselves and start playing good football again. Injuries and bad luck don't effect good teams.

Let's hope they find that spark this week.

jeanpierre · 09-20-2017, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I honestly feel that the toughest opponent for the Saints is the Saints.

No one has done more to defeat the on-field genius of Sean Payton more than Sean Payton the General Manager...

neugey · 09-20-2017, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I honestly feel that the toughest opponent for the Saints is the Saints.

They have the talent to beat anyone and have come up short.

They have lost their way. Be it by coaching, players, scheme, or whatever.

They have to find a way to stop beating themselves and start playing good football again. Injuries and bad luck don't effect good teams.

Let's hope they find that spark this week.

The Saints of old would have at least mounted a comeback in at least one of these last two games. May not have won it but would have went out with a bang, not a whimper. The Pats finished the game with 1 healthy WR and 1 healthy TE and we can't get back into the game? Seriously?

Rugby Saint II · 09-20-2017, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

No one has done more to defeat the on-field genius of Sean Payton more than Sean Payton the General Manager...

Loomis hasn't done him any favors either. To me the GM is the real weak link here. We need a knowledgeable football GM......not an accountant running the show.

QBREES9 · 09-20-2017, 03:53 PM

We're not done!!!!!

jeanpierre · 09-21-2017, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

JP,

With all due respect, it's been 3+ years (see record) of sub par play performances, not just the first two nationally televised games. This team has been bad for a while.

I know what the records have been (boy, do I know) but how many games did we lose on one play, sometimes the last play, last year?

Oakland? Denver? NY Giants? KC? @Carolina? We're easily 12-3...

That secondary just kept giving up those 3rd and obscenely long plays...

Or some questionable refereeing that we can't let games get that close...

The improvement is there...

Payton made a critical mistake this pre-season - with all the new parts, he should have been playing the 1's for at least a full quarter to develop the rhythm and chemistry not only on defense but offense as well...

K Major · 09-21-2017, 05:48 PM

I want to believe JP but boy ..

Carolina front 7 is stout, Miami front 7 is stout, opposing QB's avg ratings over 125.5 in two games, etc.
9-7 may not be enough (playoffs) ... the NFC division as a whole is looking strong.

No excuses ... beating Carolina on Sunday is a MUST.

AsylumGuido · 09-21-2017, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I want to believe JP but boy ..

Carolina front 7 is stout, Miami front 7 is stout, opposing QB's avg ratings over 125.5 in two games, etc.
9-7 may not be enough (playoffs) ... the NFC division as a whole is looking strong.

No excuses ... beating Carolina on Sunday is a MUST.

Opposing QB's were pretty damned good the first two games. We have an extremely young team. They'll improve with experience.

Utah_Saint · 09-21-2017, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I want to believe JP but boy ..

Carolina front 7 is stout, Miami front 7 is stout, opposing QB's avg ratings over 125.5 in two games, etc.
9-7 may not be enough (playoffs) ... the NFC division as a whole is looking strong.

No excuses ... beating Carolina on Sunday is a MUST.

I can't blame Payton for the offensive line play so far this season. Losing both starting tackles would hurt any team and devastate most.

09-20-2017, 02:31 AM	#61
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done Originally Posted by AsylumGuido According to some all is already lost. The season is over. We are horrible. Why even watch? Fire everyone. Hope that Benson dies, perhaps, so things get better. We'll get killed every week. Worst ever. Why watch? Go somewhere else and pick frickin' daisies. I am here to battle with my team every week. Not pointing this to you, Utah. Just sayin' Sad state of affairs with sad fans. I won't knock you for your hope. I'm the same way. I'm simply saying there's no reason to hammer others who've lost some hope after these last two games. They were terrible. To say anything more is ridiculous. But I sincerely hope this team gets it together. Because right now they look like ****. Again, to say anything else is ridiculous. neugey, dizzle88 and K Major like this.

09-20-2017, 02:40 AM	#62
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm not waiting until next year. We are two games into 16 having faced perhaps our two toughest opponents. I honestly feel that the toughest opponent for the Saints is the Saints. They have the talent to beat anyone and have come up short. They have lost their way. Be it by coaching, players, scheme, or whatever. They have to find a way to stop beating themselves and start playing good football again. Injuries and bad luck don't effect good teams. Let's hope they find that spark this week. neugey likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done Originally Posted by jnormand I honestly feel that the toughest opponent for the Saints is the Saints. No one has done more to defeat the on-field genius of Sean Payton more than Sean Payton the General Manager... jnormand, Rugby Saint II and Seer1 like this.

09-20-2017, 06:52 AM	#64
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done Originally Posted by jnormand I honestly feel that the toughest opponent for the Saints is the Saints. They have the talent to beat anyone and have come up short. They have lost their way. Be it by coaching, players, scheme, or whatever. They have to find a way to stop beating themselves and start playing good football again. Injuries and bad luck don't effect good teams. Let's hope they find that spark this week. The Saints of old would have at least mounted a comeback in at least one of these last two games. May not have won it but would have went out with a bang, not a whimper. The Pats finished the game with 1 healthy WR and 1 healthy TE and we can't get back into the game? Seriously? jnormand likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done Originally Posted by K Major JP, With all due respect, it's been 3+ years (see record) of sub par play performances, not just the first two nationally televised games. This team has been bad for a while. I know what the records have been (boy, do I know) but how many games did we lose on one play, sometimes the last play, last year? Oakland? Denver? NY Giants? KC? @Carolina? We're easily 12-3... That secondary just kept giving up those 3rd and obscenely long plays... Or some questionable refereeing that we can't let games get that close... The improvement is there... Payton made a critical mistake this pre-season - with all the new parts, he should have been playing the 1's for at least a full quarter to develop the rhythm and chemistry not only on defense but offense as well... saintfan and AsylumGuido like this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done I want to believe JP but boy .. Carolina front 7 is stout, Miami front 7 is stout, opposing QB's avg ratings over 125.5 in two games, etc. 9-7 may not be enough (playoffs) ... the NFC division as a whole is looking strong. No excuses ... beating Carolina on Sunday is a MUST.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done Originally Posted by K Major I want to believe JP but boy .. Carolina front 7 is stout, Miami front 7 is stout, opposing QB's avg ratings over 125.5 in two games, etc. 9-7 may not be enough (playoffs) ... the NFC division as a whole is looking strong. No excuses ... beating Carolina on Sunday is a MUST. Opposing QB's were pretty damned good the first two games. We have an extremely young team. They'll improve with experience. saintfan and Danno like this.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Somehow I don't think we are done Originally Posted by K Major I want to believe JP but boy .. Carolina front 7 is stout, Miami front 7 is stout, opposing QB's avg ratings over 125.5 in two games, etc. 9-7 may not be enough (playoffs) ... the NFC division as a whole is looking strong. No excuses ... beating Carolina on Sunday is a MUST. I can't blame Payton for the offensive line play so far this season. Losing both starting tackles would hurt any team and devastate most.

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