Ok..On to The Panthers

saintfan · 09-19-2017, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. Not normal. But I seriously do not think this defense is "historically bad". A ****load of new players facing two tough challenges right off the bat. Part of a rebuild is gaining your feet.

I want to support this, and because I'm optimistic by nature I'm climbing on board this wagon with you, but it's a bumpy road and I hope I don't fall off...

dizzle88 · 09-19-2017, 04:49 PM

Even if we did play "two of the better teams" in the league, we were not even competitive in either of those games. Those two teams had us beat by half time. Therefore, there is no justifying our bad start, we just have a bad team. 4 years of the exact same stats and same patterns do not lie.

K Major · 09-19-2017, 04:55 PM

The Vikings were a disappointing 8-8 in 2016.
The Pats were without key cogs on offense AND defense.

IMO, two very winnable games for the Saints. Enough with the excuses.

Find a way to beat Carolina at their house on Sunday.

spkb25 · 09-19-2017, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. Not normal. But I seriously do not think this defense is "historically bad". A ****load of new players facing two tough challenges right off the bat. Part of a rebuild is gaining your feet.

It is good you don't think that. The unfortunate reality is the 1000+ yards tends to disagree with you.

Maybe that all changes.

spkb25 · 09-19-2017, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Vikings were a disappointing 8-8 in 2016.
The Pats were without key cogs on offense AND defense.

IMO, two very winnable games for the Saints. Enough with the excuses.

Find a way to beat Carolina at their house on Sunday.

could you imagine if their best wide out had played. holy smokes

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2017, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

when did Minny, who did not even make the playoffs last year, get anointed to one of the better teams in the league? If we cannot play with the good teams how can we be considered a good team? And if I go with your idea that we played two of the better teams in the league and they played two of the worst, and we got destroyed by those two teams wouldn't that make us one of the bad teams in the league? What does that mean for us verse the Panties?

Sorry, but your logic is faulty. Read back through and you'll catch where you went wrong. At least I hope you do.

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2017, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Even if we did play "two of the better teams" in the league, we were not even competitive in either of those games. Those two teams had us beat by half time. Therefore, there is no justifying our bad start, we just have a bad team. 4 years of the exact same stats and same patterns do not lie.

Fine. You give up and wallow in self pity. I'm going into this coming weekend excited and ready for a great run!

AsylumGuido · 09-19-2017, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

It is good you don't think that. The unfortunate reality is the 1000+ yards tends to disagree with you.

Maybe that all changes.

So you think we suck. Right? Well ... no matter how much you ***** and moan the next game will be what it is. For myself, I'm going into it just like every game for the last 50 years. We're going to win.

I know you though, before that game you will post at least 100 posts lamenting about everything that is wrong and how the franchise is doomed.

I love you, Spike!

jeanpierre · 09-19-2017, 05:50 PM

I'll say this about the defense. -not so much as an excuse, but something to factor in all the minutiae of the miserable start...

We've got Delvin Breaux, Trey Hendrickson, Stephone Anthony, Ken Crawley out and are starting two rookies in Anzalone and Williams...

I like where we are now compared to the past three seasons at this time...

spkb25 · 09-19-2017, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So you think we suck. Right? Well ... no matter how much you ***** and moan the next game will be what it is. For myself, I'm going into it just like every game for the last 50 years. We're going to win.

I know you though, before that game you will post at least 100 posts lamenting about everything that is wrong and how the franchise is doomed.

I love you, Spike!

Thank you for posting what you think of me vs what the Saints have done, etc. or the fact that they have let up 1000 yards

09-19-2017, 04:49 PM	#51
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. Not normal. But I seriously do not think this defense is "historically bad". A ****load of new players facing two tough challenges right off the bat. Part of a rebuild is gaining your feet. I want to support this, and because I'm optimistic by nature I'm climbing on board this wagon with you, but it's a bumpy road and I hope I don't fall off... jeanpierre likes this.

09-19-2017, 04:49 PM	#52
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Even if we did play "two of the better teams" in the league, we were not even competitive in either of those games. Those two teams had us beat by half time. Therefore, there is no justifying our bad start, we just have a bad team. 4 years of the exact same stats and same patterns do not lie. spkb25 likes this.

09-19-2017, 04:55 PM	#53
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers The Vikings were a disappointing 8-8 in 2016. The Pats were without key cogs on offense AND defense. IMO, two very winnable games for the Saints. Enough with the excuses. Find a way to beat Carolina at their house on Sunday. spkb25 likes this.

09-19-2017, 04:58 PM	#54
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. Not normal. But I seriously do not think this defense is "historically bad". A ****load of new players facing two tough challenges right off the bat. Part of a rebuild is gaining your feet. It is good you don't think that. The unfortunate reality is the 1000+ yards tends to disagree with you. Maybe that all changes.

09-19-2017, 05:01 PM	#55
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Originally Posted by K Major The Vikings were a disappointing 8-8 in 2016. The Pats were without key cogs on offense AND defense. IMO, two very winnable games for the Saints. Enough with the excuses. Find a way to beat Carolina at their house on Sunday. could you imagine if their best wide out had played. holy smokes

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09-19-2017, 05:19 PM	#56
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Originally Posted by spkb25 when did Minny, who did not even make the playoffs last year, get anointed to one of the better teams in the league? If we cannot play with the good teams how can we be considered a good team? And if I go with your idea that we played two of the better teams in the league and they played two of the worst, and we got destroyed by those two teams wouldn't that make us one of the bad teams in the league? What does that mean for us verse the Panties? Sorry, but your logic is faulty. Read back through and you'll catch where you went wrong. At least I hope you do.

09-19-2017, 05:20 PM	#57
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Originally Posted by dizzle88 Even if we did play "two of the better teams" in the league, we were not even competitive in either of those games. Those two teams had us beat by half time. Therefore, there is no justifying our bad start, we just have a bad team. 4 years of the exact same stats and same patterns do not lie. Fine. You give up and wallow in self pity. I'm going into this coming weekend excited and ready for a great run!

09-19-2017, 05:26 PM	#58
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Originally Posted by spkb25 It is good you don't think that. The unfortunate reality is the 1000+ yards tends to disagree with you. Maybe that all changes. So you think we suck. Right? Well ... no matter how much you ***** and moan the next game will be what it is. For myself, I'm going into it just like every game for the last 50 years. We're going to win. I know you though, before that game you will post at least 100 posts lamenting about everything that is wrong and how the franchise is doomed. I love you, Spike!

09-19-2017, 05:50 PM	#59
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers I'll say this about the defense. -not so much as an excuse, but something to factor in all the minutiae of the miserable start... We've got Delvin Breaux, Trey Hendrickson, Stephone Anthony, Ken Crawley out and are starting two rookies in Anzalone and Williams... I like where we are now compared to the past three seasons at this time... Utah_Saint likes this.

09-19-2017, 06:12 PM	#60
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Ok..On to The Pathers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So you think we suck. Right? Well ... no matter how much you ***** and moan the next game will be what it is. For myself, I'm going into it just like every game for the last 50 years. We're going to win. I know you though, before that game you will post at least 100 posts lamenting about everything that is wrong and how the franchise is doomed. I love you, Spike! Thank you for posting what you think of me vs what the Saints have done, etc. or the fact that they have let up 1000 yards

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