Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Exactly. Fans are too quick to advocate throwing away players regardless of consequences, yet are also quick to condemn dead cap created by throwing away players.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Just throwing this out there... I don't take PFF as gospel or anything, but Vaccaro is currently grading out as the 3rd worst player in the NFL. And I'm not buying that he's surrounded by subpar talent because Lattimore and Marcus Williams are performing very well.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

I have never been impressed with Vaccaro. He couldn't hold a young Roman Harper's jock.

In fact, I think Roman Harper at 34 years old would outplay him right now, which isn't saying much.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Draft gamble looks solid my favs are
Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr
Quin Blanding SS/FS Virginia 6011 205 4.58 #3 Jr
Marcus Allen SS/FS Penn State 6012 202 4.55 #2 Sr
Kyzir White SS/OLB West Virginia 6025 215 4.56 #8 Sr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198

FA?
What is left in the tank? nice seasoned vet
Morgan Burnett SS/FS/CB Green Bay ?

Can he handle the switch to SS in SF this year?
Eric Reid FS/SS San Fransico ?

My #1 FA target right now is
Chris Smith DE CIN 6010 266 4.71

#2
Telvin Smith WLB Jaguars 4yr/$28 million
Jarvis Landry WR Miami

#3
Kyle Fuller CB Chicago
Aaron Colvin CB Jaguars
Dontae Johnson
CIN 25 2017: $690,000

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

He was still on the board when we picked Kenny :rolleyes:. Always thought Eric had more upside and would be become a more complete player at this level.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Maybe if he could stay on the field. Reid is going to miss the next several weeks with a PCL injury.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

yep pick 18 round 1

Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. is my round 4 steal so far

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Reid's played in 59 games. Vaccaro's played in 58. So his ability to stay on the field has been no worse than Vaccaro's.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

So what if a player's gotten hurt with another team? What good has it done us because we didn't draft said player that got hurt?

What good has it done us while Gallette's been hurt for Washington for instance?

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

I'm digging up this old thread because I just stumbled upon something about Vaccaro being on the trade block. This is from an ESPN Insider piece about potential trade targets:

Kenny Vaccaro, S, New Orleans Saints
An exec said the Saints have asked for a seventh that converts to a sixth in shopping Vaccaro. New Orleans would have to eat some of what remains on a contract featuring a $5.7 million salary for 2017, another exec said.
"This would be maybe a fourth-rounder if he were not on the final year of his deal, and a sixth-rounder because he is in the final year," another insider said. "Vaccaro is making too much money with too little production to get traded now. The Saints would have to eat salary."

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

I thought he looked pretty good on Sunday except for the holding call.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Yea screw that trade. He may not be what we expected but trading him now for a late round pick would be dumb. Our defense would instantly take a step back. If he were that bad he would be on the bench a lot more which tells me we don't have anyone else on the team that can do a better job at the moment.
He will be another Malcom Jenkens.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

KV needs to continue roaming around the line. This is where he excels ... liability on the back end. He's much more suited on under routes/slower WR's.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

He is a much better player in the 3 safety set, let Williams and Bell have the back end, sub out a LB and bring Vaccaro down in tbe box. It has worked so far and it worked during Kenny's rookie season.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

I just don't see how we pay him for a new contract.

If the light hasn't turned on yet, it won't happen between now and the end of the season. He doesn't make impact plays (He has had maybe 3 in his entire career) and he is much more prone to mental mistakes which has hurt this defense the past 3+ years.

He had a solid rookie campaign but has regressed since. He is a decent safety but not one worthy of a huge contract. Someone will overpay for him in the open market.

We have drafted two other safeties in the past 2 years and that is our future at safety. He simply won't get signed.

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

Part of this is due to the constant change in his role. Each DC has asked him to do something different. He is an in the box SS that can make plays when he is in that 10-15 yard area. Our problem as a whole on defense has been the constant changing in roles and schemes.....putting square pegs in a round hole...