Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 

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Nor his adderall addiction

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How long is that going to take? Just asking.

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5 years and he's still a liability.

Anyone remember the game vs 49ers in 2014 or 2015, when he abandoned his zone when Kaepernick started scrambling. Kaep noticed it and threw a deep pass to Crabtree, 15 seconds left and 49ers win.

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KV has failed in single high and Cover 2 assignments. This guy is no rookie.

He's been benched for a reason.

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Since when did he have an Adderall addiction?

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I was being sarcastic, but he has been suspended having it in his system hasn't he? So it wouldn't surprise me.

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It would absolutely shock me. Being in the "program" he is subject to as many as ten random tests per month year round, 24 hours a day. They can call him at any hour and has to be available in 15 minutes. This has been going on for over a year now and will continue. It is impossible for him to be doing anything banned.

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Then how did it happen in the first place? Did you see him in the post game presser? He was twitching like a frikken rabbit. To say it is impossible for him to be doing anything banned, to me, is a naiive comment.

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There is a huge difference between being addicted and having taken something. And, no, I am FAR from naive. I know how the program works and have read all about it and have heard it described by both players in the program and those in charge of the program. The testing is so aggressive it is impossible to be taking a banned substance. They are tested an average of three times per week and on every game day.

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Maybe he needs Adderall. It is a medication after all. I take Ritalin. Just sayin'.:p

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Like actually playing safety?

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so if it is prescribed he can take it or not?

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If prescribed, yes.

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Again, no it's not.

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Asking for a friend? :confused::bng:

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Remember when we thought Vaccaro and Byrd were gonna be a stellar combo? Geez...talk about wayyyy off! I really wanted this guy and was ecstatic when we drafted him. So sad how far he's fallen.

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Ok...I don't want you on this defense b/c of stupid penalties & unreal blown coverages & ridiculous missed tackles. 1st RD waste of space.

Later, tater.

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Again, yes it is. I know you are able to beat your drug testing, but it isn't anywhere near as stringent as what the NFL uses. If you knew when a test was to be given you might be able to slip by it given the right preparation. It IS impossible to successfully navigate 120 random drug tests in a calendar year while using. That is a fact.

The fact is that an athlete in the program is given a baseline test. Any subsequent test not within the bounds of that baseline is considered a failed test. That means any masking agent will create a failed test. A missed test is also considered a failed test. Not answering your phone when the office calls saying they are going to be there in 15 minutes to administer a test is considered a failed test. So, yes, given the frequency and the stringency of the NFL drug testing program it is statistically impossible to be using and pass all tests.

It is an entirely different scenario for players NOT in the program. I will give you that.

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Available in 15 minutes? Do they stay in an on site dorm?

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Did anything change when KV got benched? Did blown coverages stop? Plenty more people should have gotten bench

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Starting with DA

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No. According to the program the tester can notify the player that they are on the way to their location to administer the test. This can be anywhere. It can even be on vacation. The player is required to be available 24 hours per day, regardless of location, for random testing. The player is also required to report to the league if they will be out of town and their location. They can be random tested anywhere at anytime. The league uses testing agencies all over the country and even in foreign countries. Any failure to live up to these requirement is reported as a failed test.

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I don't know, but he doesn't take it for ADHD. Here's an excerpt from his suspension statement...

"But I don't take it, I don't have any problems. I just wanted to be up and alert. I don't take Adderall ever."

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Then stop getting in trouble and start playing. Dude after 5 years this should be a no brainer for you.

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Guess what, Christian Mccaffrey is on deck.

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... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far.

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Our own Alvin Kamara has 21 total yards from scrimmage through 2 games. Does that mean he is not a threat out of the slot ?

My point is that Kenny will probably match up well versus CM and he needs to limit missed assignments or it could be big day for the rookie out of the slot (see Dalvin Cook vs Saints wk1).

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Actually, Kamara has 92 yards from scrimmage. He has 71 receiving.

And, yes, he should be a threat, but how well Newton can utilize him is questionable. He is basically the worst passing QB in the league. But, he is also the best RB playing QB in the league. But, teams have learned that and punish the crap out of him.

My concern isn't as great about the kid because of who he has distributing the ball.

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That's what I don't get. All he has to do is go to his doctor and say that he has trouble concentrating and would probably be given a script. Why the hell would you not do that if you was going to take it?

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he is great in the Box. He needs to get paid like a third safety. Need a true modern day SS to complement him and Williams

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He said he took it one time to stay awake and alert. It was a mistake. He never took it routinely.

Here is an interview with ESPN ...

"To be honest, I just made a mistake," Vaccaro told ESPN in his first interview since the suspension.

Vaccaro said he did take Adderall, which is a stimulant banned by the NFL without a proper prescription. But he insisted it was not any kind of performance enhancer. He said he took it during the bye weekend as a pick-me-up when he was in Dallas to watch his former school, Texas, and his little brother Kevin play against Oklahoma in the Red River Rivalry.

"I was just tired and I really wasn't aware of the whole rule thing. The game's early in the morning, the state fair was going on," Vaccaro said. "I never took it before. I just did it, and it was just a dumb mistake by me, to be honest. And then I came back in Monday and had a random PED test. But that's the rules, and I take full responsibility.

"It wasn't worth it to get a little bit of energy to watch a game to come back and get a random PED test on a Monday. I mean, people can say it was unlucky, but I shouldn't have done it in the first place. But I don't take it, I don't have any problems. I just wanted to be up and alert. I don't take Adderall ever."

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Guido, how long have you been a Saints' fan?

Don't jinx it! That's usually when a rookie has his here I am party...

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I know, but I won't stop believin'.

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I agree with the Doctor's prognosis about not being able to concentrate and stay alert. I just don't think we are doing many brain transplants right now. He has been average at the best of times and I don't thin Adderall is enough to do the job. Part of letting go is saying good bye to under achievers. Or do you think the Saints are dumb enough to pay Him ? See what we can get for a trade next year and let Williams/others play and learn.

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In the meantime ...

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