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AsylumGuido 09-20-2017 08:08 AM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 765298)
Again, no it's not.

Again, yes it is. I know you are able to beat your drug testing, but it isn't anywhere near as stringent as what the NFL uses. If you knew when a test was to be given you might be able to slip by it given the right preparation. It IS impossible to successfully navigate 120 random drug tests in a calendar year while using. That is a fact.

The fact is that an athlete in the program is given a baseline test. Any subsequent test not within the bounds of that baseline is considered a failed test. That means any masking agent will create a failed test. A missed test is also considered a failed test. Not answering your phone when the office calls saying they are going to be there in 15 minutes to administer a test is considered a failed test. So, yes, given the frequency and the stringency of the NFL drug testing program it is statistically impossible to be using and pass all tests.

It is an entirely different scenario for players NOT in the program. I will give you that.

vpheughan 09-20-2017 10:28 AM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
Available in 15 minutes? Do they stay in an on site dorm?

Rell&Gold 09-20-2017 11:29 AM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
Did anything change when KV got benched? Did blown coverages stop? Plenty more people should have gotten bench

Rell&Gold 09-20-2017 11:29 AM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
Starting with DA

AsylumGuido 09-20-2017 11:31 AM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 765403)
Available in 15 minutes? Do they stay in an on site dorm?

No. According to the program the tester can notify the player that they are on the way to their location to administer the test. This can be anywhere. It can even be on vacation. The player is required to be available 24 hours per day, regardless of location, for random testing. The player is also required to report to the league if they will be out of town and their location. They can be random tested anywhere at anytime. The league uses testing agencies all over the country and even in foreign countries. Any failure to live up to these requirement is reported as a failed test.

jeanpierre 09-20-2017 11:56 AM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
Question for the labor attorneys and NFL contracts...

Vaccaro was popped for taking Adderall...

Adderall is used in the treatment for ADHD...

If Vaccaro was taking Adderall for ADHD (doubt Sean Payton would disagree, see Week 2 benching), could the NFL be interfering with Vaccaro's medical care?

ChrisXVI 09-20-2017 12:51 PM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 765425)
Question for the labor attorneys and NFL contracts...

Vaccaro was popped for taking Adderall...

Adderall is used in the treatment for ADHD...

If Vaccaro was taking Adderall for ADHD (doubt Sean Payton would disagree, see Week 2 benching), could the NFL be interfering with Vaccaro's medical care?

I don't know, but he doesn't take it for ADHD. Here's an excerpt from his suspension statement...

"But I don't take it, I don't have any problems. I just wanted to be up and alert. I don't take Adderall ever."

NOLA54 09-20-2017 02:10 PM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
Then stop getting in trouble and start playing. Dude after 5 years this should be a no brainer for you.

K Major 09-20-2017 02:32 PM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 765469)
Then stop getting in trouble and start playing. Dude after 5 years this should be a no brainer for you.

Guess what, Christian Mccaffrey is on deck.

AsylumGuido 09-20-2017 02:42 PM

Re: Saints safety Kenny Vaccaro: 'I'm staying here until they don't want me'
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 765474)
Guess what, Christian Mccaffrey is on deck.

... with his 129 yards from scrimmage over the first two games. He hasn't shown much so far.


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