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Ashley 09-20-2017 08:50 AM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
I'm a saints fan.
Not a player fan. Now by saying that, would love brees to finish here with a ring. We are no where even close, I'm starting to fall in line with most here. Blow up the team, trade brees get as much as we can. He deserves another ring.Throw the top two outand start all over again.

Budsdrinker 09-20-2017 09:21 AM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 765320)
He needs to just give it up here. If he signs then it's just all about the money. There really isn't much left for him here. We can't right this ship soon enough for him to still be any good. If I thought we were going to make huge strides in improvement this year then yea, I could see it but we aren't even close. Like Payton he's just going to ride this cash cow as long as he can.
If Payton were to leave it's a different story but as long as he is here nothing is going to change.
Find a young QB in the first round and build a line around him and give him time for the defense to get good enough to help him out.
M

So what exactly would you like to see happen? The Browns or Texans QB situation while we try to build a defense? I prefer seeing one of the greatest and future hall of fame QBs on our team as long as he can perform at an elite level which he still can. What young QB do you see available right now? I much prefer not having to worry about the QB position right now like we did in the days of Scott, Douglas, Wilson, Todd, the 2 Billy Joes and the lists goes on. We had one of the best defenses in the league with the Dome Patrol but still would lose because we didn't have a QB and offense. No disrespect to you but I just don't understand the willingness to want to let go one of the greatest Saints players ever unless he wants to leave which I doubt.

73Saint 09-20-2017 09:56 AM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 765362)
You speak the truth, but some refuse to listen. Even when the story is over a year old.

I was looking for the date on the tweet and didnt see it but my heart was in the right place. thx for pointing it out

hagan714 09-20-2017 10:52 AM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap?

That is a killer to be honest.

Lets clear some cap

kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million?

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap

lets look to 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

I guess we have our draft strategy

SS TE P RB OT DE

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr
Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr
B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94

Utah_Saint 09-20-2017 11:16 AM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
2017 Cap hit

Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million
Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million
Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million
Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million
Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million
Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million
Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million
Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million
Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million
Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million
Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million
Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million
Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million
Tom Brady, New England, $14 million
Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million
Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million
Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million
Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million
Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million
Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million
Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million
Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million
Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million
Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million
DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711
Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146
Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848
Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017

NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac

Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive.

AsylumGuido 09-20-2017 11:21 AM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 765409)
Drew Brees cap hit of $25 million or about 15% of the cap?

That is a killer to be honest.

Lets clear some cap

kenny Vaccaro = 4 yrs, $21million?

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap

lets look to 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

I guess we have our draft strategy

SS TE P RB OT DE

Derrius Guice RB LSU 5106 222 4.53 #5 Jr
Troy Fumagalli TE Wisconsin 6054 249 4.84 #81 rSr
Tre Flowers SS//FS Oklahoma St. 6021 198 4.54 #31 198
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Bentley Span OT/OG N Carolina 6056 300 5.04 #75 Sr
B.J. Hill DT NC State 6031 300 4.94

Based upon the estimated 2018 cap it is closer to 14% which has been around the average for QB's in the NFL for the past decade. That isn't a killer, it is the norm. It would only be a killer if the QB sucked. It is a bargain for an elite QB.

SmashMouth 09-20-2017 11:34 AM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 765412)
2017 Cap hit

Joe Flacco, Baltimore, $24.55 million
Carson Palmer, Arizona, $24.125 million
Kirk Cousins, Washington, $23.943 million
Matt Ryan, Atlanta, $23.75 million
Matthew Stafford, Detroit, $22 million
Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay, $20.3 million
Cam Newton, Carolina, $20.166 million
Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers, $20 million
Eli Manning, N.Y. Giants, $19.7 million
Andrew Luck, Indianapolis, $19.4 million
Drew Brees, New Orleans, $19 million
Russell Wilson, Seattle, $18.8 million
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh, $18.2 million
Sam Bradford, Minnesota, $18 million
Alex Smith, Kansas City, $16.9 million
Derek Carr, Oakland, $15.7 million
Andy Dalton, Cincinnati, $15.7 million
Tom Brady, New England, $14 million
Mike Glennon, Chicago, $14 million
Jay Cutler, Miami, $10 million
Tyrod Taylor, Buffalo, $9.7 million
Jameis Winston, Tampa Bay, $6.9 million
Marcus Mariota, Tennessee, $6.6 million
Blake Bortles, Jacksonville, $6.57 million
Josh McCown, N.Y. Jets, $6.5 million
Jared Goff, L.A. Rams, $6.4 million
Carson Wentz, Philadelphia, $6 million
Brian Hoyer, San Francisco, $5.3 million
DeShone Kizer, Cleveland, $899,711
Tom Savage, Houston, $765,146
Dak Prescott, Dallas, $635,848
Trever Simian, Denver, $628,196

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2017

NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac

Drew's cap hit doesn't look that bad when you compare it to the rest of the league. Quarterbacks are expensive.

... and Trevor Simian for the win? Ridiculous cap figure! Is Denver winning any games this year with a QB with such a low cap?

Rugby Saint II 09-20-2017 01:34 PM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
Drew Is Not The Problem! You want to keep the face of the franchise as long as possible. Especially when he's still playing at an elite level.

NOLA54 09-20-2017 01:50 PM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 765335)
The saints have been discussing a 4 year 40 million extension for SP. It's a banner year

I hope this is a joke.

NOLA54 09-20-2017 01:53 PM

Re: Saints & Brees chatting about $100 million extension
 
The reason Green Bay traded Favre was because they had Rodgers waiting in the wings. We have know one behind Brees. Let the man finish his career a Saint.


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