What if the unthinkable happens ...

voodooido · 09-20-2017, 07:37 PM

Why would we move on from a true top 5 QB for an unproven draft pick? I would hope if we get the #1 pick we would trade out. We don't need a QB. We need everything else. When are Saints fans going to see that? What idiot thinks " My team sucks so ill trade my best player and suck more?".

The Dude · 09-20-2017, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

There are precious few players now that want to play for the Saints even after a Super Bowl victory and if we start benching and trading players because of a bad start to a season, that pool will dry up fast.

Honestly I can't think of one player on the roster that I would miss or couldn't be easily replaced except maybe Cam Jorden. Excluding this years draft class.

If Armstead could play more than half a season at i time I would include him but he can't. Other than Brees, and that's becoming arguable we really don't have any other stand out players.

Danno · 09-20-2017, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

... and we are 0-4 ... worst yet, GULP, 0-6 to begin the year, should the Saints tank the season for the #1 pick and get a franchise QB and move on from Brees? Would that be better for the cap?

How has that worked out in Indy?

The problem I see is that we're depending on talent evaluators who haven't been very good of late.

Who is going to tank?

Players - Hell No!
Coaches - Hell No!

Who are you gonna get to tank?

Danno · 09-20-2017, 07:50 PM

The problem I see is that we're depending on talent evaluators who haven't been very good of late.

Say what???

Players since Ireland came on board (3 drafts)
Marshon Lattimore
Ryan Ramczyk
Marcus Williams
Alvin Kamara
Alex Anzalone
Al-Quadin Muhammad
Sheldon Rankins
Michael Thomas
Vonn Bell
David Onyemata
Daniel Lasco
Andrus Peat
Stephone Anthony
Hau'oli Kikaha
P.J. Williams
Tyeler Davison

And UDFA's Crawley, Harris, Edmunds, Breaux,

We have drafted excellently over the last 3 years.

darksoul35 · 09-20-2017, 09:18 PM

Before the season I had us being 1 - 1 right now. I wouldn't feel so bad if we didn't have a high school defense.

Seer1 · 09-20-2017, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

There are precious few players now that want to play for the Saints even after a Super Bowl victory and if we start benching and trading players because of a bad start to a season, that pool will dry up fast.

Meh. As always, they'll follow the money.

saintsfan1976 · 09-20-2017, 09:28 PM

IS there a sure fire franchise QB next year?

I was thinking the "unthinkable" would be a 10-4 tear through the season and win the division by a 1/2 game.

How's Dat sound?

The Dude · 09-20-2017, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

IS there a sure fire franchise QB next year?

I was thinking the "unthinkable" would be a 10-4 tear through the season and win the division by a 1/2 game.

How's Dat sound?

That's the thing. I don't know if there is one. If there isn't then draft Oline to help Drew out another year until we can find a new QB. By the time he steps in at least he has decent protection as he develops. Kind of hard on a new QB to settle in when he's running for his life from game 1. A lot of good players don't make it in the NFL because they are thrown to the wolves without surrounding players good enough to let them learn.
Come to think about it I really think we should address the line via FA. Use the draft for defense and maybe a RT in 3-4 round.

saintsfan1976 · 09-20-2017, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That's the thing. I don't know if there is one. If there isn't then draft Oline to help Drew out another year until we can find a new QB. By the time he steps in at least he has decent protection as he develops. Kind of hard on a new QB to settle in when he's running for his life from game 1. A lot of good players don't make it in the NFL because they are thrown to the wolves without surrounding players good enough to let them learn.
Come to think about it I really think we should address the line via FA. Use the draft for defense and maybe a RT in 3-4 round.

If nothing happens, your starting O line is
LT Armstead
LG Peat
C Unger
RG Warfford
RT Ramcheck

I don't think anyone needs to be brought in. And I'm drafting a damn WR and speed on defensive end!

gulfgambler · 09-20-2017, 09:55 PM

Sorry Danno, don't see the "excellently" in this group; collectively 14-20. Along w/ free agent bust last 3 off seasons. Receiving core, weakest of
Drew/Sean era.

09-20-2017, 07:37 PM	#11
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Why would we move on from a true top 5 QB for an unproven draft pick? I would hope if we get the #1 pick we would trade out. We don't need a QB. We need everything else. When are Saints fans going to see that? What idiot thinks " My team sucks so ill trade my best player and suck more?". WhoDat!656 likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 There are precious few players now that want to play for the Saints even after a Super Bowl victory and if we start benching and trading players because of a bad start to a season, that pool will dry up fast. Honestly I can't think of one player on the roster that I would miss or couldn't be easily replaced except maybe Cam Jorden. Excluding this years draft class. If Armstead could play more than half a season at i time I would include him but he can't. Other than Brees, and that's becoming arguable we really don't have any other stand out players.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by SmashMouth ... and we are 0-4 ... worst yet, GULP, 0-6 to begin the year, should the Saints tank the season for the #1 pick and get a franchise QB and move on from Brees? Would that be better for the cap? How has that worked out in Indy? The problem I see is that we're depending on talent evaluators who haven't been very good of late. Who is going to tank? Players - Hell No! Coaches - Hell No! Who are you gonna get to tank? AsylumGuido likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... The problem I see is that we're depending on talent evaluators who haven't been very good of late. Say what??? Players since Ireland came on board (3 drafts) Marshon Lattimore Ryan Ramczyk Marcus Williams Alvin Kamara Alex Anzalone Al-Quadin Muhammad Sheldon Rankins Michael Thomas Vonn Bell David Onyemata Daniel Lasco Andrus Peat Stephone Anthony Hau'oli Kikaha P.J. Williams Tyeler Davison And UDFA's Crawley, Harris, Edmunds, Breaux, We have drafted excellently over the last 3 years. saintsfan1976 and AsylumGuido like this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 There are precious few players now that want to play for the Saints even after a Super Bowl victory and if we start benching and trading players because of a bad start to a season, that pool will dry up fast. Meh. As always, they'll follow the money.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 IS there a sure fire franchise QB next year? I was thinking the "unthinkable" would be a 10-4 tear through the season and win the division by a 1/2 game. How's Dat sound? That's the thing. I don't know if there is one. If there isn't then draft Oline to help Drew out another year until we can find a new QB. By the time he steps in at least he has decent protection as he develops. Kind of hard on a new QB to settle in when he's running for his life from game 1. A lot of good players don't make it in the NFL because they are thrown to the wolves without surrounding players good enough to let them learn. Come to think about it I really think we should address the line via FA. Use the draft for defense and maybe a RT in 3-4 round.
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09-20-2017, 09:49 PM	#19
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by The Dude That's the thing. I don't know if there is one. If there isn't then draft Oline to help Drew out another year until we can find a new QB. By the time he steps in at least he has decent protection as he develops. Kind of hard on a new QB to settle in when he's running for his life from game 1. A lot of good players don't make it in the NFL because they are thrown to the wolves without surrounding players good enough to let them learn. Come to think about it I really think we should address the line via FA. Use the draft for defense and maybe a RT in 3-4 round. If nothing happens, your starting O line is LT Armstead LG Peat C Unger RG Warfford RT Ramcheck I don't think anyone needs to be brought in. And I'm drafting a damn WR and speed on defensive end!

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gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Sorry Danno, don't see the "excellently" in this group; collectively 14-20. Along w/ free agent bust last 3 off seasons. Receiving core, weakest of Drew/Sean era.

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