What if the unthinkable happens ...

saintsfan1976 · 09-20-2017, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

Sorry Danno, don't see the "excellently" in this group; collectively 14-20. Along w/ free agent bust last 3 off seasons. Receiving core, weakest of
Drew/Sean era.

Until Snead comes back. Until Breaux comes back. Until Armstead comes back.

Look, it's been bad. Very bad. But this team has the ability to put it all together.

All the change this offseason will take time to settle in. Our first division game is Sunday, the next not until Nov 5th.

spkb25 · 09-20-2017, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

IS there a sure fire franchise QB next year?

I was thinking the "unthinkable" would be a 10-4 tear through the season and win the division by a 1/2 game.

How's Dat sound?

Unlikely

K Major · 09-20-2017, 10:42 PM

The Saints don't even have a coherent philosophy to the defense. Constantly exposed on the back end, WR's running WIDE OPEN underneath, mental break downs in assignments etc. Inexcusable at this level. Devante' Harris should be cut. Kenny is undisciplined in his approach.

There is no way a defense should perform like this after a full pre season and training camp. If this games goes south (I hope it doesn't) in Carolina, you really have to consider promoting Nolan as our DC.

At the end of the day, all of this circles back to the front office and Sean Payton.

WillMacKenzie · 09-20-2017, 10:45 PM

I think the inexperience is really showing, and there aren't the leaders/teachers to make up for it.

A few turnovers would do wonders for the young guys' confidence, but yeah that's not going as well as I'd hoped

CharityMike · 09-20-2017, 11:15 PM

Sorry..we get a top pick, we need a game changer on defense. We have not had one in FOREVER (I say forever because I can't remember if we ever actually had one) and it is clear, if we don't get a top 5 pick, we will NEVER get one.

Crusader · 09-21-2017, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Sorry..we get a top pick, we need a game changer on defense. We have not had one in FOREVER (I say forever because I can't remember if we ever actually had one) and it is clear, if we don't get a top 5 pick, we will NEVER get one.

Cam would be one if he had just a Little help from the rest of the DL.
Its quite easy for an OL to eliminate one great DL player. But a DL that has two...
I still hope Rankins will develope because that would help tremendously.

hagan714 · 09-21-2017, 04:53 AM

Tank the season and get the #1 pick in what is hyped as one of the best QB draft years?

I will go ballistics if that saints did not trade out of the #1 spot.

We already have a laundry list of team needs

CheramieIII · 09-21-2017, 07:07 AM

Trade back a few spots to get some teams entire draft and we would still get an excellent QB.

CheramieIII · 09-21-2017, 07:14 AM

Buffalo has 8 and 9 Cleveland has 5 and 6. We could gain another 1st rounder and 2 second rounders from both teams in a trade down from 1. Both need QB's. Rosen, Darnold and maybe even Jackson will go before pick 5.

Cruize · 09-21-2017, 08:31 AM

I'm calling it now. The Saints will not win more than 6 games. I'm personally thinking 5-11.

09-20-2017, 10:09 PM	#21
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by gulfgambler Sorry Danno, don't see the "excellently" in this group; collectively 14-20. Along w/ free agent bust last 3 off seasons. Receiving core, weakest of Drew/Sean era. Until Snead comes back. Until Breaux comes back. Until Armstead comes back. Look, it's been bad. Very bad. But this team has the ability to put it all together. All the change this offseason will take time to settle in. Our first division game is Sunday, the next not until Nov 5th.

09-20-2017, 10:14 PM	#22
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 IS there a sure fire franchise QB next year? I was thinking the "unthinkable" would be a 10-4 tear through the season and win the division by a 1/2 game. How's Dat sound? Unlikely

09-20-2017, 10:42 PM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... The Saints don't even have a coherent philosophy to the defense. Constantly exposed on the back end, WR's running WIDE OPEN underneath, mental break downs in assignments etc. Inexcusable at this level. Devante' Harris should be cut. Kenny is undisciplined in his approach. There is no way a defense should perform like this after a full pre season and training camp. If this games goes south (I hope it doesn't) in Carolina, you really have to consider promoting Nolan as our DC. At the end of the day, all of this circles back to the front office and Sean Payton. neugey, SmashMouth and Rell&Gold like this.
	"We're a violent team & a tough team. We find ways to put ourselves in position to win. We just have to WIN". Alvin Kamara

09-20-2017, 10:45 PM	#24
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... I think the inexperience is really showing, and there aren't the leaders/teachers to make up for it. A few turnovers would do wonders for the young guys' confidence, but yeah that's not going as well as I'd hoped

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09-21-2017, 04:01 AM	#26
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Originally Posted by CharityMike Sorry..we get a top pick, we need a game changer on defense. We have not had one in FOREVER (I say forever because I can't remember if we ever actually had one) and it is clear, if we don't get a top 5 pick, we will NEVER get one. Cam would be one if he had just a Little help from the rest of the DL. Its quite easy for an OL to eliminate one great DL player. But a DL that has two... I still hope Rankins will develope because that would help tremendously.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What if the unthinkable happens ... Buffalo has 8 and 9 Cleveland has 5 and 6. We could gain another 1st rounder and 2 second rounders from both teams in a trade down from 1. Both need QB's. Rosen, Darnold and maybe even Jackson will go before pick 5.

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