2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

K Major · 02-19-2018, 06:39 PM

^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late.

Questions I have are ...

How is his hip movement/change of direction?
Instincts ?
Ability to shed off defenders ?
Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)?
Coverage ability in space ?

jeanpierre · 02-19-2018, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late.

Questions I have are ...

How is his hip movement/change of direction?
Instincts ?
Ability to shed off defenders ?
Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)?
Coverage ability in space ?

The big moment will be the three cone at the combine; if it's sub 7.0 sec, you really gotta look at him as our guy, if he lasts that long...

Instincts, reads seems to be there; I still would be happy if we took Bryan and got Josey Jewell moving up in the third round though...

ChrisXVI · 02-20-2018, 01:22 PM

WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder

...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft.

The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him.

..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."

K Major · 02-21-2018, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press

Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder

...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft.

The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him.

..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."

That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too.

I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.

jeanpierre · 02-21-2018, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too.

I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.

Counter-espionage...

ChrisXVI · 02-21-2018, 02:21 PM

Leighton Vander Esch, the next Chad Greenway?

https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...-chad-greenway

And just in case anyone wanted to spend a couple minutes watching some great game tape of LVE, I suggest this...

YouTube (Short URL)

02-19-2018, 06:39 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,894 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints ^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late. Questions I have are ... How is his hip movement/change of direction? Instincts ? Ability to shed off defenders ? Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)? Coverage ability in space ?

02-19-2018, 06:47 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major ^^^ It appears Leighton (honestly, I'd never heard of him until last month) is rising up the draft boards as of late. Questions I have are ... How is his hip movement/change of direction? Instincts ? Ability to shed off defenders ? Sideline to sideline closing speed as a tackler (see Deion Jones/Kuechly)? Coverage ability in space ? The big moment will be the three cone at the combine; if it's sub 7.0 sec, you really gotta look at him as our guy, if he lasts that long... Instincts, reads seems to be there; I still would be happy if we took Bryan and got Josey Jewell moving up in the third round though...

02-20-2018, 01:22 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder ...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft. The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him. ..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon."
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02-21-2018, 09:43 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,894 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI WalterFootball.com: NFL Hot Press Some See Goedert as Mid-Rounder ...There have been some mock drafts that have Goedert going in the first round and rate him as the top tight end in the draft class. However after speaking to sources from a handful of teams, none of them had Goedert graded in Round 1 of the 2018 NFL Draft. The highest grade among those five teams was a second-rounder. Two teams had him graded in the third round, and two teams had a high fourth-round grade on him. ..."[Goedert]'s not a great route-runner and wasn't a separation guy," said a NFC director of college scouting. "He is more possessional and doesn't win with suddenness or quickness. He had lots of drops, but you counter that with some spectacular catches. They threw him a million balls, so some drops are going to happen. We just don't see him as a special mismatch weapon." That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too. I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.

02-21-2018, 10:42 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too. I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level. Counter-espionage...

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