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Halo 10-15-2017 01:12 PM
Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 

SmashMouth 10-15-2017 01:49 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
WTF... why?

Rell&Gold 10-15-2017 02:28 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
I doubt it

lee909 10-15-2017 02:32 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Because they know his knees will not hold up long term and want something rather than letting him walk

K Major 10-15-2017 02:32 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Ian is throwing darts ... hoping something sticks.

Who knows.

Rell&Gold 10-15-2017 02:38 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 770007)
Because they know his knees will not hold up long term and want something rather than letting him walk
That makes sense, but he's worth keeping as a rotational player

turbo_dog 10-15-2017 03:57 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Is he listed as a linebacker?

hagan714 10-15-2017 04:00 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
he is a 34 player so maybe

AllSaints 10-15-2017 04:02 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Im comes Muhammad .... I'm down

jeanpierre 10-15-2017 04:05 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 770073)
he is a 34 player so maybe
B-I-N-G-O !

SmashMouth 10-15-2017 04:10 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 770073)
he is a 34 player so maybe
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 770080)
B-I-N-G-O !
So why can't a player do both a 34 or 43? In a situational role, he may be good enough for us. It's not like teams ONLY play one defensive look.

AsylumGuido 10-15-2017 04:10 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 769979)
WTF... why?
Because Ian Fullacrap is full of crap.

Rugby Saint II 10-15-2017 04:13 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
:popcorn:

hagan714 10-15-2017 04:15 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 770083)
So why can't a player do both a 34 or 43? In a situational role, he may be good enough for us. It's not like teams ONLY play one defensive look.
That is the most obvious and the only reason I can think of outside of injury history for a trade.

Daboot162 10-15-2017 06:30 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Rappaport just reaching here. I dont see it

K Major 10-15-2017 06:32 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daboot162 (Post 770130)
Rappaport just reaching here. I dont see it
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blackangold 10-15-2017 06:38 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Who cares... no one would even know he's gone.

jeanpierre 10-15-2017 06:39 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 770083)
So why can't a player do both a 34 or 43? In a situational role, he may be good enough for us. It's not like teams ONLY play one defensive look.
Look at it this way, if we can get a player who can see the field more than those situational downs, would you make that trade?

Kikaha is too small to anchor the edge as a defensive end...

In his own career interest, he really should be playing for a 3-4 team...

rezburna 10-15-2017 06:43 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 770139)
Look at it this way, if we can get a player who can see the field more than those situational downs, would you make that trade?

Kikaha is too small to anchor the edge as a defensive end...

In his own career interest, he really should be playing for a 3-4 team...
I agree.

Cruize 10-15-2017 06:58 PM
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The AP trade was great. The Saints win. Ingram and Kamara go off. AP runs for 130 and the Cards beat the Bucs. Kikaha is a one trick pony. If the outside rush doesn't get there, he's useless. Plus, if it meant seeing Muhammad suit up, then I would do it for a bag of chips.

SmashMouth 10-15-2017 11:18 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 770139)
Look at it this way, if we can get a player who can see the field more than those situational downs, would you make that trade?

Kikaha is too small to anchor the edge as a defensive end...

In his own career interest, he really should be playing for a 3-4 team...
New Orleans Saints: Hau'oli Kikaha

I remember reading somewhere that he had put on about 20 LBS... but he is still listed at 246.

Halo 10-15-2017 11:28 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 770143)
The AP trade was great. The Saints win. Ingram and Kamara go off. AP runs for 130 and the Cards beat the Bucs. Kikaha is a one trick pony. If the outside rush doesn't get there, he's useless. Plus, if it meant seeing Muhammad suit up, then I would do it for a bag of chips.
Wrong, he's a 2 trick pony -
1) key in 3-4 situations
2) gets hurt a lot

:annoyed:

jeanpierre 10-15-2017 11:41 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 770208)
New Orleans Saints: Hau'oli Kikaha

I remember reading somewhere that he had put on about 20 LBS... but he is still listed at 246.
Smash, you're correct about the added way which at the beginning of the season was 263 lbs...

I just think that slows him down, plus that added weight on a recently reconstructed knee makes me wince...

If we could trade Kikaha for another Interior Defensive Lineman, 4-3 Linebacker, I'd just as soon exchange assets to gain for the team...

jeanpierre 10-22-2017 09:13 PM
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vpheughan 10-23-2017 11:29 AM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Get out the trade "Fake Nose, Glasses and Moustache" so the other teams don't know who he is!!!!

Cruize 10-23-2017 02:24 PM
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Kikaha is not an every down DE in the NFL. He's not big enough. Kikaha is not a 3-4 LB in the NFL. He's not athletic enough. If you want to see ugly, ask him to cover. He was a good pass rusher in college. He has a big heart. He feasted on lesser talent in the PAC 12. There is no lesser talent in the NFL. And I'm just now getting to the bad knees.

K Major 10-23-2017 02:28 PM
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Saints FO should proceed with caution ... at worst, Kikaha is very good depth.

jeanpierre 10-23-2017 02:36 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Suspected we were the trade partner for Bowman; Bowman didn't want to go to the Saints...

Seer1 10-23-2017 07:48 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 770143)
The AP trade was great. The Saints win. Ingram and Kamara go off. AP runs for 130 and the Cards beat the Bucs. Kikaha is a one trick pony. If the outside rush doesn't get there, he's useless. Plus, if it meant seeing Muhammad suit up, then I would do it for a bag of chips.
From the looks at his stats on Sunday, AP may've been a one game pony...

jeanpierre 10-24-2017 09:12 AM
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IF the Saints are serious about trading Kikaha in a player-for-player swap, I'd call the Bills about Marcell Dareus...

Not sure Kikaha would fit in the Bills 4-3, but they may want depth behind Jerry Hughes and to just move on...

Hell, Snead may even be moved and that's why he's still inactive and we're seeing Ginn get more touches lately...

lee909 10-24-2017 09:20 AM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Id be disappointed to loose Snead.
But he will get a good deal this summer and im not sure the saints will pay him. So for the right offer id let him go. Rather gets something than nothing.

QBREES9 10-25-2017 12:02 AM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
What the hell....and why.

nola_swammi 10-25-2017 12:17 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
I figured he was next

SmashMouth 10-25-2017 12:26 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 771857)
Id be disappointed to loose Snead.
But he will get a good deal this summer and im not sure the saints will pay him. So for the right offer id let him go. Rather gets something than nothing.
Understood... not sure if he is worth the big $ he really wants. He deserved a big fat raise, just not top $.

nola_swammi 10-25-2017 12:36 PM
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Kamara already replacing Snead as the move the stick, 1st down sure handed reciever. I like Snead but his big pay day from the saints dissipated with suspension

triman 10-25-2017 02:27 PM
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Giants could use a WR. Saw online something about a trade with NE for Kiakaha? It doesn't seem he is fitting in with our D. Get some value may be we could package several low rd pick to get a pick in the second rd back?

lee909 10-25-2017 02:45 PM
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Don't like dealing with the Pats. You rarely get the better end of the deal. Be shocked if we got more than a 6th max for him

K Major 10-25-2017 02:50 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by triman (Post 772184)
Saw online something about a trade with NE for Kiakaha? It doesn't seem he is fitting in with our D. Get some value may be we could package several low rd pick to get a pick in the second rd back?
At this point, there could be some credence to that rumor. Alex Okafor is playing extremely well, and now Trey H is cutting into some of those snap counts. I would be opposed to making a move (trade) just to move. As of late Kikaha isn't beating the man in front of him on a consistent basis so I'm not so sure we'd stand a chance of getting much for him.

I'd definitely listen to offers though ;).

jeanpierre 10-25-2017 04:24 PM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 772187)
Don't like dealing with the Pats. You rarely get the better end of the deal. Be shocked if we got more than a 6th max for him
I loved and miss Brandin Cooks; but more and more, I'm glad we made that trade as Ramczyk looks like a franchise anchor on that line...

the-commish 10-26-2017 05:22 AM
Re: Saints may trade Hau'oli Kikaha
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 770073)
he is a 34 player so maybe
Doesn't matter! The Saints play multiple fronts under Dennis Allen. And not only multiple fronts, but multiple back ends too.

Kikaha as a situational pass rusher still makes sense. I would not trade him unless the deal was too good to pass up... and I don't see that happening.


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