Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit

blackangold · 10-15-2017, 04:22 PM

Offense looks worse than the D...

Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back.

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through.

dizzle88 · 10-15-2017, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Offense looks worse than the D...

Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back.

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through.

Very true, we used to take shots down the field early and often in previous years.

However, I don't think the D had anything to do with the Lions come back, Ingram fumbled and Brees threw a pick 6. Then we didn't get a first down the entire second half.

WHODATINCA · 10-16-2017, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season.

Drew has had 3 completions of 40+ yards this season. He has a PR of 103.2. Last year he only had 10 completions of 40+ yards. In 2009, he only had 11 completions of 40+ yards. I don't think the issue is Drew's arm. I think the issue is that our run game is inconsistent and play-action opportunities suffer because of it ( and our o-line has been unstable ). I also think our short passing game has been stunted without Willie Snead ( which also has meant less check-down opportunities and not enough decoys on the field ). Also, Coleman has not exactly shined this season. He needs to step up.

10-15-2017, 04:22 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Offense looks worse than the D... Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back. Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through. Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.
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10-15-2017, 04:32 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,561	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by blackangold Offense looks worse than the D... Defense is still very young and tends to play into the emotions of the game, needs to be more mature and will get better as the season goes. Played too much zone coverage at times which lead to the 3rd QTR come back. Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Overall, we tried to lose this game in the 2nd half, but luckily the defense woke up late and came through. Very true, we used to take shots down the field early and often in previous years. However, I don't think the D had anything to do with the Lions come back, Ingram fumbled and Brees threw a pick 6. Then we didn't get a first down the entire second half. RockyMountainSaint and Thirty3 like this.

10-16-2017, 03:11 AM	#3
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Here's what we learned from the Saints' wild win vs. Detroit Originally Posted by blackangold Offense has no deep passing attack, maybe it's Drew's arm starting to go or the play calls but we are not getting vertical and it's starting to show. Offense needs to improve over the next few weeks as it's the weak unit on the team, and oddly enough Drew seems to be very average this season. Drew has had 3 completions of 40+ yards this season. He has a PR of 103.2. Last year he only had 10 completions of 40+ yards. In 2009, he only had 11 completions of 40+ yards. I don't think the issue is Drew's arm. I think the issue is that our run game is inconsistent and play-action opportunities suffer because of it ( and our o-line has been unstable ). I also think our short passing game has been stunted without Willie Snead ( which also has meant less check-down opportunities and not enough decoys on the field ). Also, Coleman has not exactly shined this season. He needs to step up.
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