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Old 10-24-2017, 07:27 PM   #1
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Old 10-24-2017, 08:25 PM   #3
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I am tipping my hat to FA signings right now over the last two tears.

DA getting Ireland to nab FAs

Klien and Robertson look to be huge steals

Okafor, Stupar and Te'o are looking like solid additions

Next up Gerald Hodges

These are the huge moves that have changed the saints over the last two years.
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Free Agents signings are definitely getting better; only disappointments I have are:

...not that Warford has been awful, but I'd rather had spent an extra mil and gotten Zeitler who is more mobile and as effective in pass protection (even better with Brees)...

Losing out on Zeitler, we're forced to overpay for Warford because of those two being the onlyacceptable options on the market in a high-priority position for us...

...not vetting Nick Fairley's heart condition and rushing to extend him also took other options off the table for us this season...

...maybe the Payton/Loomis learned as attested by the Jon Dorenbos retracted trade (and saving of his life)...

...and then the Adrian Peterson signing which was at first excited because it signaled a commitment to run, but was reminded this is Sean Payton's team...

...with the Peterson money slot we could've signed, upgraded, or add'l linebacker and/or interior offensive lineman...

But none of the big albatross contracts like that of Byrd...
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Old 10-26-2017, 03:08 PM   #5
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Free Agents signings are definitely getting better; only disappointments I have are:

...not that Warford has been awful, but I'd rather had spent an extra mil and gotten Zeitler who is more mobile and as effective in pass protection (even better with Brees)...

Losing out on Zeitler, we're forced to overpay for Warford because of those two being the onlyacceptable options on the market in a high-priority position for us...

...not vetting Nick Fairley's heart condition and rushing to extend him also took other options off the table for us this season...

...maybe the Payton/Loomis learned as attested by the Jon Dorenbos retracted trade (and saving of his life)...

...and then the Adrian Peterson signing which was at first excited because it signaled a commitment to run, but was reminded this is Sean Payton's team...

...with the Peterson money slot we could've signed, upgraded, or add'l linebacker and/or interior offensive lineman...

But none of the big albatross contracts like that of Byrd...
Something tells me that Payton is listening to what other coaches/executives say more than ever this year. I don't know if someone came down on his m or if he finally set his ego aside. In any regard it doesn't seem like the same old Payton show. Big difference in half time adjustments alone.
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I don't care as long as were winning. Great job guys.
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Sometimes wonder if the handcuffs were taken off of Jeff Ireland if things would've been different with Nick Fairley (better vetting)...
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Old 10-25-2017, 05:35 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Sometimes wonder if the handcuffs were taken off of Jeff Ireland if things would've been different with Nick Fairley (better vetting)...
Ireland's been here a year longer than Fairley, so I doubt it.
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:16 AM   #9
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Sometimes wonder if the handcuffs were taken off of Jeff Ireland if things would've been different with Nick Fairley (better vetting)...
Nick has pegged with a heart issue draft day. So so good so lets do it I guess was the attitude. Medical before signing might have been wise in hind sight
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:17 PM   #10
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Nick has pegged with a heart issue draft day. So so good so lets do it I guess was the attitude. Medical before signing might have been wise in hind sight
They did do a physical before signing. That has been confirmed. It was a new issue which can arise at any time with persons having underlying heart concerns. It was simply bad timing.
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