Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland

Seer1 · 10-25-2017, 07:43 PM

Don't most teams do a bonehead or two every year?

jeanpierre · 10-25-2017, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Don't most teams do a bonehead or two every year?

Well, because of Ireland, we're closer to the league average now...

Cruize · 10-26-2017, 06:39 AM

After several years of below average production from the whole organization, it's way too early to crown anyone. The season is far from over. Lattimore fell to the Saints. Ram fell to the Saints because of injury. Kamara was all Payton. Klien was a backup who got paid starter money. Warford was paid top dollar. Teo' needed a new home after injuries and under producing. Lutz was a present from Harbaugh. Putting aside the heart issue, I didn't think Fairly was worthy of the money he got paid to begin with. Any way you look at Anzalone, right now it was a miss. The whole availability thing. Ginn was a good pick up. Williams was steal at safety. Hendrickson was a good pick. And Muhammad has shown promise. Lots going on. Not all good. Not all Ireland.

hagan714 · 10-26-2017, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

After several years of below average production from the whole organization, it's way too early to crown anyone. The season is far from over. Lattimore fell to the Saints. Ram fell to the Saints because of injury. Kamara was all Payton. Klien was a backup who got paid starter money. Warford was paid top dollar. Teo' needed a new home after injuries and under producing. Lutz was a present from Harbaugh. Putting aside the heart issue, I didn't think Fairly was worthy of the money he got paid to begin with. Any way you look at Anzalone, right now it was a miss. The whole availability thing. Ginn was a good pick up. Williams was steal at safety. Hendrickson was a good pick. And Muhammad has shown promise. Lots going on. Not all good. Not all Ireland.

Putting aside the heart issue, I didn't think Fairly was worthy of the money he got paid to begin with.

I agree

Ginn was a good pick up.

I am amazed at his play the past few games and I hate jinx him by saying he has not had any drops

Brandon Coleman I will add to this group. Lining him up in the slot is brutal on defenses. He appears ready battle for more playing time.

K Major · 10-26-2017, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I agree

Ginn was a good pick up.

I am amazed at his play the past few games and I hate jinx him by saying he has not had any drops

Brandon Coleman I will add to this group. Lining him up in the slot is brutal on defenses. He appears ready battle for more playing time.

Hagan,
Glad you touched on this ... I re watched the Packer game. Remember the wheel route to TG Jr where he ran for 30+? Replay (Charles Davis mentioned it too) showed Brandon clamping down on his man that created the running lane. Or the last play of the 3rd quarter where Kamara received the hand off & found a seam outside the tackle created by Brandon. End result was 13+ yards and could have been more if he hadn't slipped on the wet grass.

It won't appear on the stat sheets but Brandon Coleman has played really well this year. He is a hell of a down field blocker.

CheramieIII · 10-27-2017, 06:20 AM

It's not a turnaround until we go 10-6

10-25-2017, 07:43 PM	#1
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland Don't most teams do a bonehead or two every year?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland Originally Posted by Seer1 Don't most teams do a bonehead or two every year? Well, because of Ireland, we're closer to the league average now... Seer1 likes this.

10-26-2017, 06:39 AM	#3
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland After several years of below average production from the whole organization, it's way too early to crown anyone. The season is far from over. Lattimore fell to the Saints. Ram fell to the Saints because of injury. Kamara was all Payton. Klien was a backup who got paid starter money. Warford was paid top dollar. Teo' needed a new home after injuries and under producing. Lutz was a present from Harbaugh. Putting aside the heart issue, I didn't think Fairly was worthy of the money he got paid to begin with. Any way you look at Anzalone, right now it was a miss. The whole availability thing. Ginn was a good pick up. Williams was steal at safety. Hendrickson was a good pick. And Muhammad has shown promise. Lots going on. Not all good. Not all Ireland. hagan714 and SmashMouth like this.
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10-26-2017, 10:21 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland Originally Posted by Cruize After several years of below average production from the whole organization, it's way too early to crown anyone. The season is far from over. Lattimore fell to the Saints. Ram fell to the Saints because of injury. Kamara was all Payton. Klien was a backup who got paid starter money. Warford was paid top dollar. Teo' needed a new home after injuries and under producing. Lutz was a present from Harbaugh. Putting aside the heart issue, I didn't think Fairly was worthy of the money he got paid to begin with. Any way you look at Anzalone, right now it was a miss. The whole availability thing. Ginn was a good pick up. Williams was steal at safety. Hendrickson was a good pick. And Muhammad has shown promise. Lots going on. Not all good. Not all Ireland. Putting aside the heart issue, I didn't think Fairly was worthy of the money he got paid to begin with. I agree Ginn was a good pick up. I am amazed at his play the past few games and I hate jinx him by saying he has not had any drops Brandon Coleman I will add to this group. Lining him up in the slot is brutal on defenses. He appears ready battle for more playing time. Cruize, SmashMouth and K Major like this.

10-26-2017, 11:29 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,916 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints can credit 2017 turnaround to improved scouting under Jeff Ireland Originally Posted by hagan714 I agree Ginn was a good pick up. I am amazed at his play the past few games and I hate jinx him by saying he has not had any drops Brandon Coleman I will add to this group. Lining him up in the slot is brutal on defenses. He appears ready battle for more playing time. Hagan, Glad you touched on this ... I re watched the Packer game. Remember the wheel route to TG Jr where he ran for 30+? Replay (Charles Davis mentioned it too) showed Brandon clamping down on his man that created the running lane. Or the last play of the 3rd quarter where Kamara received the hand off & found a seam outside the tackle created by Brandon. End result was 13+ yards and could have been more if he hadn't slipped on the wet grass. It won't appear on the stat sheets but Brandon Coleman has played really well this year. He is a hell of a down field blocker. Crusader, Cruize and SmashMouth like this.

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