The way to early 2018 FA watch list

K Major · 10-27-2017, 10:21 AM

Sheldon Richardson - DE
Kam Chancellor - S
Shaq Barrett - OLB

hagan714 · 10-27-2017, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Damn, good looking out Hagan.

He is a good player and the Jag defense is trending up. Good for him though.

I was keeping an eye on him

Jags have some big money contracts coming up

Some thing has to give Odd man out in Jacksonville

Allen Robinson 4 - $58 million ?
Marqise Lee 4 - 42 million ?
Allen Hurns WR Jaguars 6012 198 4.55 UDFA = 5 - $40 million no dead cap in 2018

So I am watching
Aaron Colvin CB Jaguars = Nickle CB
I hoping he slip through the cracks

Utah_Saint · 10-27-2017, 10:35 AM

There are several of our own free agents that need to be resigned.

Brees, Vaccaro, Okafor, Bush...

After that a few names to look at, in no particular order might be...

Bennie Logan, DT from the Chiefs
DeMarcus Lawrence, DE from the Cowboys
Zach Brown from the, ILB from the Redskins
Mason Foster from the, ILB from the Redskins
Morgan Burnett from the, SS from the Packers

K Major · 10-27-2017, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

There are several of our own free agents that need to be resigned.

Brees, Vaccaro, Okafor, Bush...

U_S,

I'd like your input here ... who stays for 2018? Signs elsewhere ...

hagan714 · 10-27-2017, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, the bigger issue for us is cap management and that's likely to dictate what we do in free agency...

For example, will we be trading folks for future cap relief? Also, do we extend contracts coming due or move on?

Only real needs we have at the moment is TE, reserves at LB, DT3, maybe a reserve Interior Offensive Lineman...

This is a balanced team with adequate depth at all positions; in fact, we just released a good cornerback, a premium position no less...

Cap? Drew 20+ million a year
Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year

2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000
Dead Money $5,688,972
All Contracts $133,574,626
Total $139,263,598
Cap Space $28,736,402

Update
Adrian Peterson Dead $0 Savings $3.5 million

that leaves $6.5M or so to play with so my guy can be wormed in

DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M

front office goes to pull a wabbit out of their hat?

a few outs

Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr,
cap $6,245,000; Dead $1,645,000
Savings $4.6 mil in 2018

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169;
Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,800,000
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097;
Cap $4,700,000 Dead $700,000
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

Max Unger
Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,500,000
Savings $3.5 mil in 2018

Ted Ginn
Potential Out: 2018, 1 yr, $5,000,000;
Cap $4,500,000 Dead $2,000,000
Savings $2.5 mil in 2018

Michael Hoomanawanui
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $3,500,000;
Cap $1,933,334 Dead $333,334
Savings $1.6 mil in 2018

Potential out 2019

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000;
Cap $15,000,000 Dead $7,400,000
Savings $7.6 mil in 2018

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000;
Cap $9,000,000 Dead $4,000,000
Savings $5.0 mil in 2019

were do you start?

FA
Nick Fairley
DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M
Savings $5.0 mil in 2019

Round 1 - 26
Coby Fleener?
Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma 6042 254 4.77 #81 rJr
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

or
Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year
Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr

Rd 4
Thomas Morstead
JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr
Savings $4.0 mil in 2018

Rd 6
Michael Hoomanawanui
Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr
Savings $1.6 mil in 2018

you pick

Rugby Saint II · 10-27-2017, 01:37 PM

Let's don't gamble on injured players. Oh, and cut Fleener! He isn't worth the money.

nola_swammi · 10-27-2017, 02:00 PM

Eric Reid

ScottF · 10-27-2017, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

The Jimmy Garoppolo situation is going to be very interesting. The Saints would seem to be a logical fit and could possibly be a 10-15 year solution. I would bet New England applies the franchise tag, but if they don't it could be something to watch.

I don't see a team paying someone $22 million (QB Tag) to watch Brady play.

ScottF · 10-27-2017, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Cap? Drew 20+ million a year
Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year

2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000
Dead Money $5,688,972
All Contracts $133,574,626
Total $139,263,598
Cap Space $28,736,402

that leaves 3 mill or less to play with so my guy can be wormed in

DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M

front office goes to pull a wabbit out of their hat?

a few outs
Mark Ingram.
Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap
Savings $4.6 mil in 2018

Adrian Peterson
Cap $4,750,000 Dead $1,250,000
Savings $3.5 million

Coby Fleener
Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap
Savings $3.2 mil in 2018

Michael Hoomanawanui Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $3,500,000; $333,334 dead cap $1.6M

Thomas Morstead
Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap
Savings $4.1 mil in 2018

Ted Ginn
Potential Out: 2018, 1 yr, $5,000,000; $2,000,000 dead cap
Savings $2.5 mil in 2018

Terron Armstead
Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap

Nick Fairley
Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap

were do you start?

I could see an injury / retirement settlement with Fairley
Morstead has to be maxed out, right? Maybe an extension a slight discount

Fleener is the obvious candidate. Someone like Cameron Brate would be a much cheaper replacement and could be available

lee909 · 10-27-2017, 03:52 PM

Think Strief will be restructure or cut myself

10-27-2017, 10:21 AM	#11
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Sheldon Richardson - DE Kam Chancellor - S Shaq Barrett - OLB hagan714 likes this.

10-27-2017, 10:26 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Originally Posted by K Major Damn, good looking out Hagan. He is a good player and the Jag defense is trending up. Good for him though. I was keeping an eye on him Jags have some big money contracts coming up Some thing has to give Odd man out in Jacksonville Allen Robinson 4 - $58 million ? Marqise Lee 4 - 42 million ? Allen Hurns WR Jaguars 6012 198 4.55 UDFA = 5 - $40 million no dead cap in 2018 So I am watching Aaron Colvin CB Jaguars = Nickle CB I hoping he slip through the cracks K Major likes this.

10-27-2017, 10:35 AM	#13
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list There are several of our own free agents that need to be resigned. Brees, Vaccaro, Okafor, Bush... After that a few names to look at, in no particular order might be... Bennie Logan, DT from the Chiefs DeMarcus Lawrence, DE from the Cowboys Zach Brown from the, ILB from the Redskins Mason Foster from the, ILB from the Redskins Morgan Burnett from the, SS from the Packers Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-27-2017, 11:56 AM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Originally Posted by Utah_Saint There are several of our own free agents that need to be resigned. Brees, Vaccaro, Okafor, Bush... U_S, I'd like your input here ... who stays for 2018? Signs elsewhere ...

10-27-2017, 01:30 PM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, the bigger issue for us is cap management and that's likely to dictate what we do in free agency... For example, will we be trading folks for future cap relief? Also, do we extend contracts coming due or move on? Only real needs we have at the moment is TE, reserves at LB, DT3, maybe a reserve Interior Offensive Lineman... This is a balanced team with adequate depth at all positions; in fact, we just released a good cornerback, a premium position no less... Cap? Drew 20+ million a year Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year 2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000 Dead Money $5,688,972 All Contracts $133,574,626 Total $139,263,598 Cap Space $28,736,402 Update Adrian Peterson Dead $0 Savings $3.5 million that leaves $6.5M or so to play with so my guy can be wormed in DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M front office goes to pull a wabbit out of their hat? a few outs Mark Ingram. Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, cap $6,245,000; Dead $1,645,000 Savings $4.6 mil in 2018 Coby Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,800,000 Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 Thomas Morstead Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; Cap $4,700,000 Dead $700,000 Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 Max Unger Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,500,000 Savings $3.5 mil in 2018 Ted Ginn Potential Out: 2018, 1 yr, $5,000,000; Cap $4,500,000 Dead $2,000,000 Savings $2.5 mil in 2018 Michael Hoomanawanui Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $3,500,000; Cap $1,933,334 Dead $333,334 Savings $1.6 mil in 2018 Potential out 2019 Terron Armstead Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; Cap $15,000,000 Dead $7,400,000 Savings $7.6 mil in 2018 Nick Fairley Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; Cap $9,000,000 Dead $4,000,000 Savings $5.0 mil in 2019 were do you start? FA Nick Fairley DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M Savings $5.0 mil in 2019 Round 1 - 26 Coby Fleener? Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma 6042 254 4.77 #81 rJr Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 or Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr Rd 4 Thomas Morstead JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 Rd 6 Michael Hoomanawanui Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr Savings $1.6 mil in 2018 you pick Rugby Saint II likes this.
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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Let's don't gamble on injured players. Oh, and cut Fleener! He isn't worth the money.

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10-27-2017, 03:23 PM	#18
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Originally Posted by MatthewT The Jimmy Garoppolo situation is going to be very interesting. The Saints would seem to be a logical fit and could possibly be a 10-15 year solution. I would bet New England applies the franchise tag, but if they don't it could be something to watch. I don't see a team paying someone $22 million (QB Tag) to watch Brady play.

10-27-2017, 03:51 PM	#19
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Originally Posted by hagan714 Cap? Drew 20+ million a year Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year 2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000 Dead Money $5,688,972 All Contracts $133,574,626 Total $139,263,598 Cap Space $28,736,402 that leaves 3 mill or less to play with so my guy can be wormed in DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M front office goes to pull a wabbit out of their hat? a few outs Mark Ingram. Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, $11,431,671; $1,645,000 dead cap Savings $4.6 mil in 2018 Adrian Peterson Cap $4,750,000 Dead $1,250,000 Savings $3.5 million Coby Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; $4,800,000 dead cap Savings $3.2 mil in 2018 Michael Hoomanawanui Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $3,500,000; $333,334 dead cap $1.6M Thomas Morstead Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; $700,000 dead cap Savings $4.1 mil in 2018 Ted Ginn Potential Out: 2018, 1 yr, $5,000,000; $2,000,000 dead cap Savings $2.5 mil in 2018 Terron Armstead Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; $7,400,000 dead cap Nick Fairley Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; $4,000,000 dead cap were do you start? I could see an injury / retirement settlement with Fairley Morstead has to be maxed out, right? Maybe an extension a slight discount Fleener is the obvious candidate. Someone like Cameron Brate would be a much cheaper replacement and could be available

10-27-2017, 03:52 PM	#20
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list Think Strief will be restructure or cut myself

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