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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, the bigger issue for us is cap management and that's likely to dictate what we do in free agency... For example, will we be trading folks for future cap relief? Also, do we extend contracts ...
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Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Cap? Drew 20+ million a year![]()
Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year 2018 NFL Salary Cap $168,000,000 Dead Money $5,688,972 All Contracts $133,574,626 Total $139,263,598 Cap Space $28,736,402 Update Adrian Peterson Dead $0 Savings $3.5 million that leaves $6.5M or so to play with so my guy can be wormed in DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M front office goes to pull a wabbit out of their hat? a few outs Mark Ingram. Potential Out: 2018, 3 yr, cap $6,245,000; Dead $1,645,000 Savings $4.6 mil in 2018 Coby Fleener Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $14,741,169; Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,800,000 Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 Thomas Morstead Potential Out: 2018, 6 yr, $19,014,097; Cap $4,700,000 Dead $700,000 Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 Max Unger Cap $8,000,000 Dead $4,500,000 Savings $3.5 mil in 2018 Ted Ginn Potential Out: 2018, 1 yr, $5,000,000; Cap $4,500,000 Dead $2,000,000 Savings $2.5 mil in 2018 Michael Hoomanawanui Potential Out: 2018, 2 yr, $3,500,000; Cap $1,933,334 Dead $333,334 Savings $1.6 mil in 2018 Potential out 2019 Terron Armstead Potential Out: 2019, 3 yr, $31,321,000; Cap $15,000,000 Dead $7,400,000 Savings $7.6 mil in 2018 Nick Fairley Potential Out: 2019, 2 yr, $14,000,000; Cap $9,000,000 Dead $4,000,000 Savings $5.0 mil in 2019 were do you start? FA Nick Fairley DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/3 M Savings $5.0 mil in 2019 Round 1 - 26 Coby Fleener? Mark Andrews TE Oklahoma 6042 254 4.77 #81 rJr Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 or Kenny Vaccaro 5+ million a year Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr Rd 4 Thomas Morstead JK Scott, P, Alabama 6045 202 4.76 #15 Sr Savings $4.0 mil in 2018 Rd 6 Michael Hoomanawanui Marcus Baugh TE Ohio State 6041 250 4.84 #85 rSr Savings $1.6 mil in 2018 you pick |
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Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
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I could see an injury / retirement settlement with Fairley Morstead has to be maxed out, right? Maybe an extension a slight discount Fleener is the obvious candidate. Someone like Cameron Brate would be a much cheaper replacement and could be available |
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Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
To stay on point with the defense ...
I'd be elated if we can land a true, sideline to sideline MIKE (what I thought we had in Stephone), & slide AJ over to strong side. |
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Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
Top FA on wish list DaQuan Jones DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $3/4 M A massive proven run stuffing 34 DE. Does the dirty work on one of the best DL in the NFL. Ranked 16th among NFL interior linemen in run defense according to PFF in 2016. He is big & athletic and can handle 4-3 one-technique without a question and would be a hand full for C and OG to handle. Rankings and Jordan would surely benefit from Jones. He would help to keep the LBs clean to make plays He could be answer to the lack of 3 man pass rush. Teams always double him up on inside pass rush. Outside pass rush he is not a factor. Move him into a 43 and reap the rewards. He is so under valued in Tennessee. He is my Klien for 2018 Solid depth additions Dontae Johnson CB/FS 49ers 6021 208 4.45 = S/CB 4th rd 2014 - $3/4 M Tampa 2 safety to man press CB? So he is not particularly nuanced and still needs coaching due to the mis use in San Fran. He has value as a nickle and dime guy day one 1. In the slot guarding TE and RB on passing downs. off-man coverage and in the Box is were also where he will excel. Put him on slower larger WR and TE in the slot. Do not ask him to cover quicker receivers.Solid special teamer to boot. Charles Simms RB Tampa 6000 214 4.46 RD3 2014 - $1/2M . Odd man out. Yet another multi talented back to match up with Ingram and Kamara. He’s a good pass blocker and 3rd down back. Worse team for Simms to go to was the Tampa. On third downs Alvin Kamara would love him in the backfield with him and the pairing would drive teams nuts. He was wasted in Tampa. So So Big ticket? John Brown WR/KR Cards 5100 179 4.34 3rd Round 2014 $4/5 M A proven Human Joy Stick with speed to spear. I am looking at the KR skill set here big time. Big ticket Can the FO pull a wabbit out of their hat? Morgan Burnett SS/FS/CB Green Bay 4 / $32M jack-of-all-trades.strong safety, slot corner and even linebacker. he doles it all. make him a lifetime-Packer? Or is Josh Jones the future? Opps Bennett is out with an Achilles injury so pause and wait to see how bad it is Kyle Fuller CB Bears 5116 190 4.40 1st Round 2014 - $8/10 M Tampa 2? Wrong needs to go to a more press defense. strong at playing the ball and and there is the injury question from last year. Protection or Refusal. Draft or FA is always hard choice with a solid CBs always battling injuries. I like the veteran route but Drew will suck the cap money almost dry. Can we really afford a contract like this with Drew a FA? Probably not. Watch List Chris Smith DE Bengals 6010 266 4.71 5th Round 2014 - $2/4 M 34 OLB? nah that did not work. 43 DE sure and Cinnci is giving him a shot now. Christian Jones OLB/ILB 6031 249 4.68 CHI $1/2 M Solid depth addition at MLB and SLB . solid special teamer to boot |
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Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
There are several of our own free agents that need to be resigned.
Brees, Vaccaro, Okafor, Bush... After that a few names to look at, in no particular order might be... Bennie Logan, DT from the Chiefs DeMarcus Lawrence, DE from the Cowboys Zach Brown from the, ILB from the Redskins Mason Foster from the, ILB from the Redskins Morgan Burnett from the, SS from the Packers |
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Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
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Too early to tell how priorities will shake out by the end of the season.![]()
I think they'll sign Drew to another one year deal for whatever the top QB contracts are going for. From what we've seen so far, I think they'll try to resign Okafor and Kelemente. Vaccaro will be interesting, between the suspension and the benching, I don't know how much the Saints will be willing to offer but I'd guess several other teams will want him. Just my guesses. We'll have to see how the rest of the season plays out. |
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Re: The way to early 2018 FA watch list
Let's don't gamble on injured players. Oh, and cut Fleener! He isn't worth the money.
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