What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago

hagan714 · 10-30-2017, 04:49 AM

No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming

We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run.

Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL

Thus YPC is to high.

ChrisXVI · 10-30-2017, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming

We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run.

Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL

Thus YPC is to high.

That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait...

lee909 · 10-30-2017, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming

We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run.

Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL

Thus YPC is to high.

Originally Posted by lee909

Only seen little bits but looked likey they held the line ok baring a couple of broken big gains.

Agree though a true dominate run stuffing DT would be a great additions

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait...

On this and my pointbthat the D line help up pretty well.

Take away the 2 big runs *Trubisky/Howard 96 yards.

29 carries 61 yards.

Jordan Howard 22 for 52

Need to stop the big plays.

Same in the air. McBride got loose 3 for 93 but half in one play.

Overall this group is definitely on the way up.

Biggest questions for me in defense

Does Vaccaro get paid
Big run stuffing DT
Re-sign Okafor
Fairley contract

Offense
Willie Snead deal?
New number 2 WR
Fleener cut
Ingram (cap casualty?)

hagan714 · 10-30-2017, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait...

That is my point. Rankins needs help. But even then opening a hole in the middle of the saints defense is way to easy. Way to often I see an OL at the second level sealing off the lane.

A run stopping, sand in the pants DT will help the entire front 7

SmashMouth · 10-30-2017, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait...

Originally Posted by hagan714

That is my point. Rankins needs help. But even then opening a hole in the middle of the saints defense is way to easy. Way to often I see an OL at the second level sealing off the lane.

A run stopping, sand in the pants DT will help the entire front 7

Well, we had Jenkins... but he did not work out.

jeanpierre · 10-30-2017, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming

We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run.

Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL

Thus YPC is to high.

Sheldon Rankins = Sedrick Ellis 2.0

Same size, same jersey number, same high draft pick investment, same pedestrian results...

K Major · 10-30-2017, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Sheldon Rankins = Sedrick Ellis 2.0

Same size, same jersey number, same high draft pick investment, same pedestrian results...

Ellis was hardly the player Rankins already is. The guy is just getting started & has been disruptive. Take a moment to read Underhill's analysis on Rankins. It's a fair, honest assessment on his production thus far.

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SmashMouth · 10-30-2017, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Sheldon Rankins = Sedrick Ellis 2.0

Same size, same jersey number, same high draft pick investment, same pedestrian results...

10-30-2017, 04:49 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run. Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL Thus YPC is to high. Barry from MS and jeanpierre like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by hagan714 No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run. Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL Thus YPC is to high. That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait... hagan714 and Thirty3 like this.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by hagan714 No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run. Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL Thus YPC is to high. Originally Posted by lee909 Only seen little bits but looked likey they held the line ok baring a couple of broken big gains. Agree though a true dominate run stuffing DT would be a great additions Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait... On this and my pointbthat the D line help up pretty well. Take away the 2 big runs *Trubisky/Howard 96 yards. 29 carries 61 yards. Jordan Howard 22 for 52 Need to stop the big plays. Same in the air. McBride got loose 3 for 93 but half in one play. Overall this group is definitely on the way up. Biggest questions for me in defense Does Vaccaro get paid Big run stuffing DT Re-sign Okafor Fairley contract Offense Willie Snead deal? New number 2 WR Fleener cut Ingram (cap casualty?)

10-30-2017, 11:34 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait... That is my point. Rankins needs help. But even then opening a hole in the middle of the saints defense is way to easy. Way to often I see an OL at the second level sealing off the lane. A run stopping, sand in the pants DT will help the entire front 7 K Major likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,926 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by ChrisXVI That's what Sheldon Rankins has been doing. He's been fighting double teams and spending more time than he should as a 1-technique. This is the problem when all of the DT's are only 300 lbs. We just need to find a 6-4, 330 pounder who can play that role. You know, someone like that Akiem Hicks on the Bears. Oh wait... Originally Posted by hagan714 That is my point. Rankins needs help. But even then opening a hole in the middle of the saints defense is way to easy. Way to often I see an OL at the second level sealing off the lane. A run stopping, sand in the pants DT will help the entire front 7 Well, we had Jenkins... but he did not work out.

10-30-2017, 09:03 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by hagan714 No one has stepped up in the middle. None of the DT requires dbl teaming We need a gap plugging DT that is good against the run. Our LBers are to easy to get to for opposing OL Thus YPC is to high. Sheldon Rankins = Sedrick Ellis 2.0 Same size, same jersey number, same high draft pick investment, same pedestrian results...

10-30-2017, 11:12 PM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,926 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What we learned from the Saints' close win vs. Chicago Originally Posted by jeanpierre Sheldon Rankins = Sedrick Ellis 2.0 Same size, same jersey number, same high draft pick investment, same pedestrian results... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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