How did we get here.

WHODATINCA · 11-14-2017, 04:28 AM

I also think that we are learning from trying and failing to fit a square peg in a round hole. Like Vaccaro being the FS he is meant to be and putting other players in a position to be effective.

Did we actually fix our D and our O-Line in the same season?

Seems too good to be true.

AsylumGuido · 11-14-2017, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by triman

It takes a combination of luck and skill to win it all in the NFL. Luck Lattimore falling to 11 . Sometimes it's not what you do but what you didn't do. I was all in on getting Butler from the Pats . By not making that move we got a better starter at a huge discount from what kind of contract Butler would have cost. The real luck or genius was we got Ramczyk instead. The way the OL has used it's depth and versatility is nothing short of brilliance. Credit should go to the players as well as their coach.
We had a phenomenal draft . Before Anzalone got injured we had 3 starters on defense. Add in Henderson becoming a versatile rotational DE/DT .Adding four contributors to your defense is a good draft by any standard. The fact that one of them is leading the race for DROK is icing on the cake. And oh yeah we got a future star RB also not bad eh? Five starters in one draft that is Grand slam!

The addition of LB Klien ,Teo, turn a weak position group into a position of strength. Hiring Alex Okafor is looking like a good move also. Credit Mike Nolan for the job he has done with his group. On the opposite side of the field we added Warford an underrated FA move. Ginn is a good replacement for Cooks and seems to improve weekly.

The team has made a concerted move to more balanced approach to our offense. This helps Brees to not have to carry the offense and opens up opportunities for play action and screens.
A great deal of our success on Defense has been with better coverage by our secondary has allowed us to greatly improve our pass rush.

At O and 2 I was ready to fire Payton and start the rebuilding process. Man was I wrong. After the beat down of a decent Bills D I don't see how you can't be thinking playoffs a SB!

Yeah. I never did get the calls to "start" a rebuilding process when the Saints had been going through a huge rebuild for the past three years. Perhaps the most extensive rebuild ever by New Orleans. Basically, Drew Brees and Cam Jordan are the only two active players remaining from the previous roster. It is no coincidence that they are also arguably the best two individual players on the roster. Over half of the coaches have also been replaced, as well as the entire scouting staff, over that same period.

CheramieIII · 11-14-2017, 07:27 AM

My mom and dad had sex when they got drunk one night and poof 9 months later there I was!

dizzle88 · 11-14-2017, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yeah. I never did get the calls to "start" a rebuilding process when the Saints had been going through a huge rebuild for the past three years. Perhaps the most extensive rebuild ever by New Orleans. Basically, Drew Brees and Cam Jordan are the only two active players remaining from the previous roster. It is no coincidence that they are also arguably the best two individual players on the roster. Over half of the coaches have also been replaced, as well as the entire scouting staff, over that same period.

I called for a complete rebuild a few times and I'll hold my hands up, I completely underestimated just how much some of these changes would alter this team.

I thought SP was ready to be checked into a retirement home because he never seemed bothered by the team getting destroyed, and yet the guy still has some fire left.

I'll happily accept I was very wrong, let's just keep going one game at a time.

Mondays are so much sweeter this season.

AsylumGuido · 11-14-2017, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I called for a complete rebuild a few times and I'll hold my hands up, I completely underestimated just how much some of these changes would alter this team.

I thought SP was ready to be checked into a retirement home because he never seemed bothered by the team getting destroyed, and yet the guy still has some fire left.

I'll happily accept I was very wrong, let's just keep going one game at a time.

Mondays are so much sweeter this season.

Yes. I understand the impatience, I guess. I could see the incremental improvements going on over the past three years, but then again I am an old fart and not from the "immediate satisfaction" generation. And while I think we have reached a point in the process where we are serious SB contenders, I expect those improvements to continue for the next few years. We have the cap space to keep the veteran players we need (Cam, Ingram and Brees) and the entry level contracts of the younger players to keep that cap as a no issue moving forward.

K Major · 11-14-2017, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'll happily accept I was very wrong, let's just keep going one game at a time.

Mondays are so much sweeter this season.

Ditto

. I'll fess up as well. The way in which we were humiliated after the first two games, I thought the party was over

. Those young guys never stop grinding.

I'm glad to be wrong.

Seer1 · 11-14-2017, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

My mom and dad had sex when they got drunk one night and poof 9 months later there I was!

Too much information Captain Obvious.

WhoDat!656 · 11-14-2017, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The team we are now, if we went back and played Minnesota and New England, I think we'd win both games, pretty convincingly too.

Neither one wants to play us again!

homerj07 · 11-14-2017, 09:26 PM

I'm gonna wait until after the Thursday night game agaisnt Atlanta to make a decision.

Seer1 · 11-15-2017, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Neither one wants to play us again!

You remember any other team that's had the ambulance on the field three games in a row?

11-14-2017, 04:28 AM	#11
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: How did we get here. I also think that we are learning from trying and failing to fit a square peg in a round hole. Like Vaccaro being the FS he is meant to be and putting other players in a position to be effective. Did we actually fix our D and our O-Line in the same season? Seems too good to be true.

11-14-2017, 07:26 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,005	Re: How did we get here. Originally Posted by triman It takes a combination of luck and skill to win it all in the NFL. Luck Lattimore falling to 11 . Sometimes it's not what you do but what you didn't do. I was all in on getting Butler from the Pats . By not making that move we got a better starter at a huge discount from what kind of contract Butler would have cost. The real luck or genius was we got Ramczyk instead. The way the OL has used it's depth and versatility is nothing short of brilliance. Credit should go to the players as well as their coach. We had a phenomenal draft . Before Anzalone got injured we had 3 starters on defense. Add in Henderson becoming a versatile rotational DE/DT .Adding four contributors to your defense is a good draft by any standard. The fact that one of them is leading the race for DROK is icing on the cake. And oh yeah we got a future star RB also not bad eh? Five starters in one draft that is Grand slam! The addition of LB Klien ,Teo, turn a weak position group into a position of strength. Hiring Alex Okafor is looking like a good move also. Credit Mike Nolan for the job he has done with his group. On the opposite side of the field we added Warford an underrated FA move. Ginn is a good replacement for Cooks and seems to improve weekly. The team has made a concerted move to more balanced approach to our offense. This helps Brees to not have to carry the offense and opens up opportunities for play action and screens. A great deal of our success on Defense has been with better coverage by our secondary has allowed us to greatly improve our pass rush. At O and 2 I was ready to fire Payton and start the rebuilding process. Man was I wrong. After the beat down of a decent Bills D I don't see how you can't be thinking playoffs a SB! Yeah. I never did get the calls to "start" a rebuilding process when the Saints had been going through a huge rebuild for the past three years. Perhaps the most extensive rebuild ever by New Orleans. Basically, Drew Brees and Cam Jordan are the only two active players remaining from the previous roster. It is no coincidence that they are also arguably the best two individual players on the roster. Over half of the coaches have also been replaced, as well as the entire scouting staff, over that same period.

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11-14-2017, 07:45 AM	#14
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,113	Re: How did we get here. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yeah. I never did get the calls to "start" a rebuilding process when the Saints had been going through a huge rebuild for the past three years. Perhaps the most extensive rebuild ever by New Orleans. Basically, Drew Brees and Cam Jordan are the only two active players remaining from the previous roster. It is no coincidence that they are also arguably the best two individual players on the roster. Over half of the coaches have also been replaced, as well as the entire scouting staff, over that same period. I called for a complete rebuild a few times and I'll hold my hands up, I completely underestimated just how much some of these changes would alter this team. I thought SP was ready to be checked into a retirement home because he never seemed bothered by the team getting destroyed, and yet the guy still has some fire left. I'll happily accept I was very wrong, let's just keep going one game at a time. Mondays are so much sweeter this season. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,005	Re: How did we get here. Originally Posted by dizzle88 I called for a complete rebuild a few times and I'll hold my hands up, I completely underestimated just how much some of these changes would alter this team. I thought SP was ready to be checked into a retirement home because he never seemed bothered by the team getting destroyed, and yet the guy still has some fire left. I'll happily accept I was very wrong, let's just keep going one game at a time. Mondays are so much sweeter this season. Yes. I understand the impatience, I guess. I could see the incremental improvements going on over the past three years, but then again I am an old fart and not from the "immediate satisfaction" generation. And while I think we have reached a point in the process where we are serious SB contenders, I expect those improvements to continue for the next few years. We have the cap space to keep the veteran players we need (Cam, Ingram and Brees) and the entry level contracts of the younger players to keep that cap as a no issue moving forward. dizzle88 likes this.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,035	Re: How did we get here. Originally Posted by dizzle88 The team we are now, if we went back and played Minnesota and New England, I think we'd win both games, pretty convincingly too. Neither one wants to play us again!

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