What we learned from Saints' comeback win against the Redskins
 

That we CAN come back and win it.

Character team building long playoff capable win.

Without Lattimore, our defense is noticeably weaker...

Lutz can kick game winners!

That's it's not over until IT"S OVER!

WhoDat! :bng:

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Quarterback
Drew Brees took far more of a beating than in the previous few weeks. Brees made some nice throws, but couldn’t connect some others. This wasn’t the day Brees could put the team on his back and pull the Saints to victory ... until it was. He went full-throttle Brees for consecutive touchdown drives in the fourth quarter to force overtime.
Grade: A

Running back
Mark Ingram ran as hard as he possibly could to keep the Saints in the game. Alvin Kamara produced a couple of explosive plays. And he also made the amazing happen with the juggling touchdown reception and the two-point conversion.
Grade: A plus

Wide receiver
Ted Ginn Jr. has become one of the more consistent receivers on the Saints. Michael Thomas again came up with a few tough catches. The unit came up huge down the stretch.
Grade: B

Tight end
Coby Fleener hauled in a handful of big time receptions (five catches, 90 yards), and Josh Hill caught a TD. I still like what I saw from Hill and Michael Hoomanawanui with their blocking in the ground game.
Grade: B plus

Offensive line
The front five surrendered more pressure on Brees for the first time in quite a while. I saw some missed assignments from just about everyone along the offensive front. The Redskins overwhelmed Ryan Ramczyk too often.
Grade: B-minus

Defensive line
Cam Jordan and friends couldn’t provide too much pressure on Kirk Cousins. The Saints failed to record a quarterback hit on Cousins in the first half. The front line also found issues slowing down Redskins backup tailback Samaje Perine, who rushed for more than 100 yards. The unit kept it together late in the game, though, including a Cam Jordan sack in overtime.
Grade: C

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More than that. This game clearly showed why Lattimore, Klein, and Vaccaro all make the defense work. Remember that Harris started the first two games. Saw the same busted coverages as in the first two games. I love Mauti's grit. But it simply isn't Klein's talent.

Scheme can only do so much. We need the physical and mental talents of our missing starters for our defense to be effective.

Hope we see them all back soon.

SFIAH

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Why does De’Vante Harris STILL NOT KNOW WHO TO COVER?!?!

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Some kudos

Fleener - Thats what we'd hope to see every game since we signed him.

Klein, Okafor and Lattimore are key players we need down the stretch

Ingram-looks like another #22 that played for the Cowboys a while back

Kamara-this kid is freaking special, even more special than most of us know.

Payton-It looks like he has the fire and passion that was missing the last few years.

Drew doesn't look a day over 30.

This team has chemistry and character. Its so 2009!!!

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The Saints played a crappy game for 3½ quarters and the boom. This is a group with a lot of grit and fight in 'em. I have said it before but they genuinly seem to be playing for each other and caring about oneanother.

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Glad they shutdown Lattimore...need him later down the stretch. Klein was hugely missed today. Only gripes would be wanting to see Rankins flash more on passing downs. Harris should be bagging groceries tomorrow, if only he could locate the bags and the groceries.

But we're just a good team...hasn't been that for awhile. Great W.

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Anybody notice the holder held the laces in on Lutz's game winning kick?? Wow

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Kirk Cousins is a really good QB btw. Would love to see him in Black and Gold in a couple of years.

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Cousins is no joke. An eagle surrounded by turkeys. I would be glad to have him if not for Brees.

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Cutting Sterling Moore was a mistake. Devante Harris was bad in coverage ... actually most of the game.

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Man that sucks for him. I was hoping it would just be a sprained ankle.

Its about Chris Thompson, WAS, btw.

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He really is. Tough too.

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He's a big time liability out there. Just like he was vs Minn and NE.

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So what win is better, the 2009 Redskins game when Meachem stole the ball and scored or today's come from behind OT victory?

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Hard to compare. They ar both very special wins thou; that's for certain.

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I hate posting this but it seems to work every week.

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PJ Williams is not good.
Brees is not perfect.
Klein is bigger than his stats.
Ingram is in a zone like no other Saint (other than #9) has been in
in a very long time

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Dilly Dilly....get over it Danno

Another foe enters the Pit of Misery

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Hey, if it means a W every week, Dilly forth!!!

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Be careful goin' there Danno. What if it's not the dilly, but your reaction to it?

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A dillying Danno?

:banana:

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What I learned:

1. This team has a lot of heart. They could have just rolled over and died but they didn't. Great team win and it'll go a long ways to build character.

2. We have a very good football team that is capable of winning the Super Bowl. We are still lacking a few important pieces though that will be necessary in order for us to reach our peak imo. Finding a great pass rusher needs to be the top priority in the off-season.

3. Marshon Lattimore is incredibly important for this defense. I think he may be even more important than Cam Jordan.

4. Our run game is amazing. We have a good passing offense, but the bread and butter of our offense is definitely our run. I think we made a huge mistake in this game, which is one of the reasons we almost lost. We got behind, and as a result we abandoned the running game. We should have stuck to what has been working all year long. I think we sorta panicked in play-calling. Hopefully Payton realizes that when he reviews the film.

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Agreed.

Inside the trenches ... those guys up front are maulers. On the first play in OT, Ingram ran for about 20 yards ... replayed it in slow motion and ANDRUS PEAT blocked his man 5 yards off his spot. Completely wiped him out. I mean he's been doing this all year. Moving men against their will week after week.

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I remember specifically noticing that block and thought to myself whoa

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Yea... I came to this BS. LOL :o

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I was caught up with things last night and unable to watch. That win was a great sign. Far better than a blowout would be.

The degense had its back to the wall with injuries and when the game was on the line stepped up and got the stops.

Ingram turned into a monster this year. Time and time again just picking up big yards. Kamara is everything Reggie Bush should have been. Difference is he north to south over east to west runs.

Really impressed with the team.
Only seen 10 mins of hightlights so far.


Oh and that last run in OT just shows how important a fully healthy Armstead is.

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You have to find ways to win the ugly games and we did

Klien is the captain of the Defense we have long missed.
The LB corp does not look to too bad as a group but youth is always welcomed.
Football IQ is the most over looked trait at LB.

I am not as worried about DE as I was in 2016
Cameron Jordan Alex Okafor and Trey Hendrickson have the looks of the solution.

(1) Rankins needs help.
He can not stand up to double teams.
Our other DT can not maintain their gap assignments in one on one blocking
Opposing OL are stilling running free at the second level sealing off LBers
A sand in the pants DT that eats up double and still plays 3 to 5 yards behind the line and still excels against the run, is a huge void on the DL. Prefer a proven young veteran to free up Rankins, Jordan and keep the LB cleans.

DaQuan Jones (25) DT/DE Titians 6036 322 5.35 #90 R4 2014 - $2/4 M

(2) KV is a unique player and one that is hard to replace.
Bell is a vastly inferior version of KV
Saints have a huge need for a modern day SS that can help Williams in the back end.

-Can Drew and the front office pull a wabbit from the hat for a proven vet?
Morgan Burnett SS/FS/CB Packers 6013 209 4.51 Green Bay 4/$32M
-Up and coming?
Eric Reid FS/SS San Fransisco 6012 213 4.53 Rd 1 2013 4 / $32M
-Draft?
Ronnie Harrison SS/OLB Alabama 6011 214 4.54 #15 Jr

(3) With Lattimore out, it exposed how truly shallow the CB group is.
Many have dismissed the injury to Breaux and the impact to the CB unit. Some have forgotten how good he is.
We are 3 deep at CB (Breaux Lattimore Crawley) and the rest are on the bubble

Draft/FA at least 4 new faces at CB
-Can Drew and the front office pull a wabbit from the hat?
Kyle Fuller CB Bears 5116 190 4.40 1st Round 2014 - $8/10 M
- Draft? One of Bamas starting 3 would help
Anthony Averett, CB/FS/WR Alabama 5115 185 4.43 #28 rSr
Levi Wallace CB/FS Alanama 5111 185 4.45 #39 Sr
Tony Brown CB/FS/SS Alabama 5116 198 4.38 #2 Sr

Conclusion?

DaQuan Jones would make the front 7 hum

Morgan Burnett would solidify the secondary much like Darren Sharper did for the saints.

Draft Ronnie Harrison to learn from Burnett how to become a modern day SS in the NFL. Harrison plays the slot extremely well already. Harrison's skill set is much the same as Burnett. Both can play multiply rolls in the secondary. Instant upgrade across the board.

We are close but as this game showed we still have a way to go.

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-Great 8 game run. Mostly earned.
-Snead, Fleener, and Lewis made plays. Huge.
-Took a good team's best and got the W.
-There's nobody beasting like Ingram in the NFL.
-Kamara was hit in the mouth for the first time and stood tall. Special player.
-Teo' was a great signing.
-The OLine got scuffed up yesterday but made plays when it counted.
-Brees got scuffed up yesterday but made plays when it counted.
-The defense got scuffed up yesterday.
-It doesn't get easier in the weeks to come.

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Quality win.

Worried about Alex Okafor.

Any news on him?